Reason Dumbledore trusted Snape

juli17 at aol.com juli17 at aol.com
Sat Jul 14 07:28:15 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 171721

 
Pippin wrote:

I've got a great fondness for the I'm A Prince =  Irma Pince anagram. 
If Snape accepted Dumbledore's protection for his  mother, then he 
would, IMO, never betray  Dumbledore.

va32h:

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I've read the Irma Pince  theory, and I'm not convinced based on their 
arguments (too much reliance on  wildly extrapolating from very scant 
information for me). I do think that  Snape's relationship with his 
family is relevant to the issue of Snape's  loyalties, but I don't 
think Irma Pince is Eileen Snape. Eileen may still be  alive though - 
we have no reason to think she isn't. 




Julie:
I wouldn't say I'm convinced of the Irma Pince (I'm a  Prince)=Eileen Prince 
theory.
But I do think it's the likeliest of the several anagram  theories I've 
heard. The 
Severus Snape=Perseus Evans one I count unlikely because JKR spoke of 
how she came up with Snape's last name, and because she has said that  
Harry has no close relatives, especially not on the muggle Evans side,  where
Petunia was the only one who could provide Harry with the family  connection
that would allow Lily's blood magic to protect him. The  Ollivander=An evil 
lord
one seems unlikely, as how many evil Lords does one series  need?
 
OTOH, Irma Pince is a more straightforward anagram, simply  by moving the "r"
to a new location. It also seems odd for JKR to write  into the books two 
last 
names so close in sound/spelling, Pince and Prince. (We know  she had Prince
picked out at or near the beginning too, as CoS was almost  called HBP). Irma
Pince's name doesn't have any deeper meaning that I've heard of, like many  
other
names in the series (Remus, Rubeus/Albus/Black, Malfoy,  Voldemort, star and
constellation names within the Black/Malfoy families, etc,  etc). Not all the 
characters
have meaningful names of course, but with no logical or canon argument  
against it
(as there is for the other two anagrams above), and some mild logical  
support for it
(including DD's "we can hide you where you'll never be found" argument to  
Draco
quite possibly referencing previous experience with  exactly that scenario), 
it seems
a theory with a very solid chance of being  correct.
 
Oh, one more thing. If Eileen Prince did elect to hide behind the name Irma  
Pince, I
like the irony of her using the same method as Tom Riddle, her previous  
schoolmate
(and perhaps more). And doing so in front of his face as it were (given  
Voldemort could
easily hear the librarian's name from DE parents of Hogwarts students),  
assuming 
he's so full of himself and his own cleverness he'd never even contemplate  
someone
else might make use of his idea!
 
Julie, thinking the extrapolation is quite reasonable,  though admittedly 
canon remains
scant--at least for six more days ;-)












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