Prophecy Involvement- There are only two?

Steve bboyminn at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 19 17:43:37 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 172178

---  "sdeepthi" <sdeepthi at ...> wrote:
>
> Chys:
> > How does the one who records the names on the 
> > prophecies know that it is the "Dark Lord" and 
> > "Harry Potter(?)" if he doesn't know the full 
> > contents of the prophecy, as Dumbledore told Harry
> > in the Weasley's smelly broomshed, 'only two people
> > in the world know the full contents of the prophecy
> > now?'
> > 
> > ...

> Deepthi:
> ... I think there are three possibilities.
> 
> (a) The keeper of the Hall of Prophecy has no knowledge
> of the contents of the prophecy.
>
> We can reject this ... - On OoP page 842 Dumbledore 
> says "It seemed plain to the keeper of the Hall of 
> Prophecy that Voldemort could only have tried to 
> kill you..."
> 
> (b) The keeper had full knowledge of the prophecy ...
>  but is no longer alive, ...
> 
> (c) The keeper knew only the part of the prophecy that
> had been overheard.
> ...

bboyminn:

Keep in mind there is a difference between knowing
/about/ something, and actually /knowing/ it. 

I'm sure Dumbledore told several people /about/ the
Prophecy. Certain people at the Ministry seem to know
and I have always assumed that is why the give Harry
extra protections and monitoring. But that doesn't
mean Dumbledore quotes the Prophecy to everyone he
meets. He simply explains it to certain necessary 
individuals to the extent and in the detail necessary
for them to do their job. 

It is entirely possible that many people know about
the Prophecy in the working sense, but only Dumbledore
and Harry can quote it exactly.

So, the Keeper of the Hall might have had a general 
explanation, and when Harry was attack concluded that
certain /uncertain/ aspects had now become clear, and 
made the correction to the label. 

> Deepthi continues:
>
> Of course thinking about this only raises more 
> questions.
> ... 
> - Does the keeper of the Hall of Prophecy need to know
> the prophecy to record it? How are prophecies recorded
> anyway?
> - If only LV & Harry could lift the prophecy from the 
> shelf, how did the keeper relabel it? By performing a 
> spell with a wand?
> 
> Deepthi - ...

bboyminn:

No, I don't think the Keeper of the Hall needs to know
the details of the Prophecy. All he needs is a working
summary. To record a prophecy, I suspect a method is
used very similar to the one Dumbledore uses to store
memories in the Penseive. The memory goes straight 
from the mind into the Orb, it is not necessarily 
listened to by the Keeper of the Hall or anyone else.

As to relabeling the Prophecy, keep in mind that he 
didn't relabel the Prophecy, he relabeled the label;
or to put it another way, he relabeled the shelf.

Just passing it along.

Steve/bboyminn





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