my DH reactions minus Snape

M.Clifford Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Wed Jul 25 02:51:17 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 172510

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Sherry Gomes <sherriola at ...> wrote:
>
> No Snape in this one, because we'll be discussing him for years to
come, and
> I'd like to touch on some other things.  These thoughts are in no
particular
> order.
> 
> still confused.
> I do not get the whole deathly Hallows thing at all.  Did Harry end up
> Master of death?  But he still destroyed the Horcruxes.  How did
Harry live
> in the end?  If his mother's blood in Voldemort tethered him to life
when
> Voldemort killed him in the forest, then how did he live when Voldemort
> tried it again in the great Hall?  I just don't get it, and I'd be
glad for
> clarification.


Hi Sherry,
It seems to me that the second time, in the Great Hall, then, Harry
was the undisputed Master of Death. That was the moment when he took
possession of the last Hallow and mastered it in his magical control,
the only thing he hadn't done yet, and so in that moment, he could not
die. Voldemort's immortality was gone as of Nagini's death so he could
die, and via the shared blood it is possible he could have taken Harry
with him, it was at that moment, I believe, that Harry had achieved
the legendary immortality bestowed by the Hallows and thus couldn't die. 

Voldemort's second AK backfired on him as the Elder wand spun through
the air, I think, my guess is that the wand flipped around perfectly
and pointed straight at Voldie discharging the spell at him and him
alone, in that moment when Voldemort died the now weakened connection
between him and Harry failed, he couldn't take Harry with him into
death because Harry was more pure in his immortality than Voldemort
had ever been, and when that happened and the connection finally broke
completely Harry could not tether Voldemort to life either so LV's
death was final. 

This is all very theoretical, I know, but it's a complex ending isn't
it? It takes a little speculation to understand I think. 

Sherry:
> I thought Dobby's death and burial was the most moving moment of all
in the
> book, even more than Harry's walk toward death with his parents,
Sirius and
> Lupin. 

Valky:
This was my number one moment too, although I can't really separate
the best parts of the book to call any a favourite, there were lots of
favourites for me. Dobby's burial really moved me though, it was special. 

Sherry:
> And of course, there has to be some things I didn't like.  I thought
there
> was way too much camping.  

Valky:
Oh I so agree! There was too much camping, and it felt like the middle
of he book was slowing to a boring halt, I cheered when they lost that
darn tent, so glad it was gone at last, silly boring smelly old thing!!



Sherry:
> And what about Wormtail?  Did the silver hand punish him for feeling
a bit
> of concern about Harry, and is that why it strangled him?  That was
another
> confusing moment for me.
> 

Valky:
Yes, I'm pretty sure you have that right. It's how I read it.







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