Random DH questions from a lowly Muggle

[Tim]

No: HPFGUIDX 173046

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "sneeboy2" <sneeboy2 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> "Mindy" wrote:
> > 
> > 6) I am so confused by Dumbledore's speech during Harry's near-
death
> > experience. The entire premise of the prophecy has completely
> > crumbled. If indeed, Harry couldn't die as long as LV was alive
> > because of his blood being in LV, and LV being unable to die as 
long
> > as Harry was alive because he was a Horcrux, how does that
> > explain "Neither can survive while the other lives" prophecy?
> 
> Sneeboy2 replies: 
> 
> I agree that this doesn't fit the prophecy; the fact of the matter 
was
> that neither could DIE while the other lived. I can only surmise 
that,
> as DD explained to Harry in OotP, most prophecies go unfulfilled 
due
> to the free will of the people involved. The prophecy seems to have
> played the role of setting the ball rolling, and motivating the
> players' actions, but it didn't predict the outcome.
>
Tim replies:

Actually, thinking about it a few days later, it does make sense.  
Harry did die in that chapter.  Because V was still alive, and had 
Harry's blood, Harry could hold onto life, like V did when Harry was 
a baby (he had most of the Horocuxes already made, so he could hang 
onto life).  The difference is Harry's body was not destroyed in the 
process, so he could come back to it, not as some half-spirit thing 
that V was for so long.  Dumbledore clearly stated that Harry had 
the choice of coming back.  He could have stayed dead and let V take 
over.  I know she didn't write it, but that curled up childlike 
thing that Harry saw, IMHO, was the part of V that was in Harry.  
Since Harry had died, his blood would no longer protect V.  Once 
Nagini the snake was destroyed (way to go Neville!) V only had the 
little bit of his soul in his ressurected body left to keep him 
alive.  By killing Harry, V made himself vulnerable to death.  Of 
course, even if he had heard the full prophecy I doubt he would have 
understood that, or he would have completely avoided Harry at all 
cost.

Tim