Questions for JKR

dungrollin spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com
Fri Jul 27 09:59:06 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 173210

dumbledad:
> I love this thread, partly because Dung gets her own theory wrong 
(IMHO)!
> 
> Dung said:
> 
> >>> Why didn't Voldemort tell Snape to side-along apparate to 
Grimmauld Place with a gang of Death Eaters? <<<
> 
> Back to Dung's question for JKR: "Why didn't Voldemort tell Snape to
> side-along apparate to Grimmauld Place with a gang of Death 
Eaters?" Maybe he didn't; perhaps he forgot or overlooked the 
possibility. Both are possible but lame, so let's assume that 
Voldemort did ask Snape to side-along apparate to Grimmauld Place 
with a gang of Death Eaters. Snape then had to use his fantastic 
ability to think under pressure, and his skills in Occlumency, to 
feign a reason. Snape knows more spells, curses, and jinxes than we 
do. Why assume he could not explain his way out of Voldemort's 
request?
> 
> No, the real inconsistency Dung discovered is only apparent if you 
add another level of indirection to the question. Here is what we 
should ask JKR: "Why didn't the Order assume that Voldemort would 
tell Snape to side-along apparate to Grimmauld Place with a gang of 
Death Eaters?" Now the problem is revealed. The Order assumed that 
the tongue-tying curse and the jinxes they placed on Grimmauld Place 
were safe enough. They did not worry about the trio hiding out there. 
Why? What made the Order so sure that Voldemort, Snape, and a phalanx 
of Death Eaters wouldn't side-along apparate to the front doorstep, 
inside the Fidelius Charm? The reason the Death Eaters couldn't get 
to Grimmauld Place was that Snape was not really on their side, but 
the Order did not know that, and so their actions were
> inconsistent.
> 

Dungrollin:
Actually, I agree with you completely, I was just trying to simplify 
to get the plot-hole across!

Dumbledad:
<snip>
> > There's another 'inconsistency' I don't buy, but it's from 
another thread.
> Toner pointed out:
> 
> >>> I thought Fenrir had a dark mark? During the tower scene at the 
end of
> HBP, a group of DEs join DD, Harry and Draco up on the top of the 
tower, and
> the rest of the OotP can't get up the stairs due to some magical 
wall except
> for Snape. At the time, the reasoning for this was that only people 
with
> Dark Marks could go through the invisible wall. <snip>

Dumbledad:
> I think Toner also spots the way out:
> 
> >>> I guess you just explain away the magical wall in the tower 
under some
> other context, but I'd thought I'd bring it up anyway. <<<

Dungrollin:
Yeah, but it's *lame*. 

How about this for an inconsistency:
Why didn't Voldemort become the master of the Elder wand when he AKed 
Harry in the forest? 

Because he didn't kill him? DD didn't kill Grindelwald, either, 
neither did Harry kill Malfoy. Needs some bending over backwards to 
wriggle out of IMO.

Dungrollin





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