Ludo Bagman / Dementors (Was: Re: Divination and Questions from the GoF Pensieve

[Goddlefrood]

No: HPFGUIDX 169689

> > Goddlefrood:

> > Ludovic Bagman comes next.
 
> > Fwiw I am of the opinion that he is a Death Eater and will 
> > play a part, however short, in DH while being revealed as 
> > the enormous blond Death Eater from the amusement at 
> > Hogwarts.

> CMC:
 
> Then why didn't Harry recognize him? In GoF it's frequently 
> implied that Bagman is well past his prime as an athlete. For 
> all his ineptitude, the unnamed blonde DE from HBP does not 
> seem to be physically decrepit.

Goddlefrood:

If I had a penny for each time this had been brought up :-< I'd 
be several pounds richer, anyway.

Harry had one fleeting glimpse of the blond Death Eater during 
the lark at Hogwarts. He had not seen Bagman for more than a 
year. Bagman had not notably been on the wizarding scene and 
may well have regained some of his former sporting prowess 
(lost his pot belly, in other words). His hair would have 
grown, possibly as part of a disguise from the Goblins (or 
even Kemper's ogres who had fewer children to devour).

This may be thought rather thin, but then so is a view that 
Harry must surely have recognised Bagman had he been the blond 
Death Eater.

It should also be borne in mind that, not only was any view 
Harry had of the blond Death Eater fleeting, but also that 
Harry at the relevant time was in torch lit corridors and the 
darkened grounds (where he only saw the behind of blondy) and 
was rather preoccupied with a certain Severus Snape rather than 
on figuring out who all the others involved were.

There are at least two wholly unremarked upon Death Eaters 
involved in the jamboree and brutal-face is no more than that.

It'll take a good deal more than the above to make me alter my 
view, fwiw.

> CMC:

> I've never heard of a prosecuting attorney who *didn't* get 
> upset when the accused escaped imprisonment.

Goddlefrood:

They certainly have issues. However, Crouch senior was not 
in any role as a prosecuting attorney, as you put it. He was 
fulfilling the chairman's role of the Council of Magical Law.

Winky expounds on Barty Senior's dislike of Bagman and it does 
seem that there is more to it than just some annoyance that Ludo 
escaped imprisonment. I believe Barty Senior knew some things 
about Bagman that were ultra vires the proceedings against him 
in the Pensieve and would make one's hair curl.

> CMC:

> In Snape's first DADA class, he has on display several 
> banner-sized photos, one of which is a dementor victim, 
> in an inert zombie-like condition.

Goddlefrood:

A picture of a victim that was seen momentarily does not a 
case make. If the above is taken on its face then maybe, 
rather than becoming a Dementor the victim becomes an Inferi, 
does that seem possible?

I'll go a little into how I think Dementors came about now. I 
have formed the view that originally they were created by some 
witch or wizard for the purpose of intimidation of others. If 
that is near enough the case than it certainly worked as most 
of the opinions expressed regarding Dementors in canon are that 
they are disturbing beings and were the ideal guards of the 
wizarding prison.

There is no indication so far that they can talk so it should 
also be wondered how they communicate with witches and wizards. 
There must be some communication for them to be able to have 
agreed to guard Azkaban and for their having later agreed to 
join Lord Voldemort. I could not say for sure if we will find 
out about this matter, but it is interesting to speculate on 
it nevertheless.

Goddlefrood