Did Snape set up the Pensieve scene?

lizzyben04 lizzyben04 at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 5 15:19:32 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 169820

Ceridwen:
> I've been thinking about this for a while.  The only conclusion
> that seems to work for me (it may not work for you) is that
> Montague began Apparating while he was at the Borgin and Burkes end
> of the cabinets, but was whisked back to Hogwarts during the
> attempt, and ended up in the toilet.


lizzyben:

Well, maybe, but that seems like a messy explanation that goes
against canon thus far. The 2 cabinets seem to form a "path" between
B&B and Hogwarts. If Montague was at the B&B end, he could apparate into the shop or Hogsmeade - but he still couldn't apparate into the Hogwarts bathroom, because nobody can apparate into Hogwarts. If he's at the Hogwarts end, the same rule applies - people can't apparate from within Hogwarts, either. So - how did it happen?

Logically, it seems like there's only a couple options:

Montague didn't apparate: How was he moved?

1. Physical movement - Someone found Montague in the Cabinet & moved
him to the bathroom; or else Montague somehow moved on his own w/o
remembering that.

2. Magic - The cabinet itself somehow spit Montague out, or some
type of magical side effect/dimension split occured to release Montague w/o him actually apparating.

Montague did apparate: How?

1. Over-ride? - maybe there's some unknown spell or exception that
allows students to apparate in spite of the anti-apparition ban.
There's been no hint of such a spell, or that Montague or anyone
else would know how to do this, so I don't like this explanation.

2. Elves? - They're the only people who can apparate within
Hogwarts - maybe an elf did a side-along apparition with Montague?

3. The anti-apparition ban was lifted - The more I think about this,
the more likely this seems. The apparition teacher said that
Dumbledore temporarily lifted the ban for their apparition class.
Maybe DD lifted the apparition ban so that Montague could apparate
back? DD usually seems to know what goes on, & can make himself
invisible. Maybe he heard/saw what happened, and lifted the ban so
that Montague could apparate back.  I'm so totally wasting time
w/this small point, but it doesn't seem like there's a ready
explanation.


Ceridwen:
> By the way, does that mean that Montague ended up in the commode?
> Or in the lavatory?

lizzyben:
It sounds like he ended up stuck in the commode, which is why Snape,
Umbridge & Draco had to get him out.





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