What Harry "knows", Was Why we'll get no further revelations Snape was Evil

[Dana]

No: HPFGUIDX 169836

colebiancardi: 
> Oh yes, it could explain Snape's loyalty.  The trust DD had in Snape
> is a very important factor.  If ESE, the question is how did Snape
> hook-wink DD?  If DDM, Harry needs to know this.  Also, LV doesn't
> trust Snape.  He does not.  LV has Wormtail hiding out in Snape's 
> lair and LV did not confide in Snape about Draco's plans at all.  
> What was explained in HBP was Harry's POV.   DD stated that Snape 
> had remorse over the prophecy, but DD never stated WHAT it was that 
> made him trust Snape.  DD tells Harry back in GoF, when Harry asked 
> him about the trust factor, that was something between him & Snape 
> and not Harry. So, there is something more - because the prophecy 
> is Harry's business.

Dana:
DD was never going to tell Harry who had brought the prophecy to LV 
and considered Snape's remorse enough to keep the information from 
Harry forever and thus making the reason's for that trust something 
between Snape and himself. 

DD did explain the reason for Snape's return in HBP when he 
specifically states he believed that it was Snape's greatest regret 
and the reason that he returned (HBP pg 513 UKed chapter "the seer 
overheard"). Harry's point of view has nothing to do with it because 
it does not change what DD said, we witnessed what DD said.
Snape might not have lied at all he might truly have had remorse 
about HOW LV interpreted the prophecy because he still had that 
annoying debt. So no additional hoodwinking neccessary and to be on 
LV's side he doesn't have to believe in LV himself just not double 
cross him openly for him to find out and because Snape does not have 
a deathwish being loyal to LV doesn't take much effort just make sure 
he has not reason to kill you is all it takes.  

In GoF DD specifically states that he believed that Snape was never 
guilty of DE activity just like Ludo Bagman. We see that DD wants to 
give Draco a change to come over to the right side even though Draco 
has made two murder attempts. 
Snape never betrayed the trust DD had in him before the Potters died 
and afterwards there was no reason for Snape to betray DD but 
something changed and that was LV's return to power. LV's trust is 
not as unconditional as that of DD but he nevertheless shared Draco's 
task with Snape. Most Snape fans believe that DD confided in Snape in 
everything but DD never did that with anyone, he probably shared the 
most with Harry. So actually LV sharing information with Snape on an 
assignment that Snape was not even part of, is an indication LV did 
trust Snape. LV himself did not know how Draco was going to preform 
his task, he just had the assignement to bring DEs into the castle 
and from Snape's reaction it seems he knew that part too. Snape in 
Spinner's End uses precisely the same words DD used with Harry that 
the reason's for LV's trust in Snape is between the Dark Lord and 
himself. 

There is nothing more, DD trusted Snape would never go back to LV's 
side because he believed Snape was truly remorseful of what he had 
done and that him going against LV and providing DD with the 
necessary information was enough proof for DD to put his trust in 
Snape. As we see it didn't take much for him to believe Sirius story 
either even before DD talked to Harry and Hermione.

Still someone's trust is not enough to determine Snape's loyalties, 
unless you want to suggest that DD blackmailed Snape and keep him in 
check by those means but that is not what trust is (or at least not 
DD's trust). The ironclad reason DD might have thought he had for his 
trust is him saving Snape from a life in Azkaban for being a DE and 
that Snape would be honorable enough to never sell out DD. We see 
that other people loyal to DD, are people DD personally helped out of 
a tight situation or has helped them by giving them a chance to a 
normal life. 

Another possibility is that DD believed that Snape truly wanted LV 
finished and that he for that reason would never sell out DD, Harry 
and the Order. But like DD said about Snape not continuing the 
occlumency lessons, some wounds are too deep for healing. DD referred 
only to Snape's hatred for James but he forgot to include Snape's 
hatred for Sirius, Lupin and ultimately Harry and maybe DD himself 
for letting the marauders get away with what Snape perceived as an 
attempt on his life. Maybe that is the reason we will see the prank 
again to understand why DD made the decisions he made after that 
night and we will then understand everybody's part in it. 

DD probably thought that Snape's remorse included that he regretted 
ever joining up and therefore he never thought about the reason's for 
Snape joining the DE's and I believe the circumstances that led Snape 
to LV in the first place repeated themselves on more then one 
occasion and I believe that Snape lost faith in DD but that DD wanted 
to hold on to his trust in Snape and that Snape would do the right 
thing in the end, but he didn't. 

DD is not an old fool for trusting Snape because somewhere deep down 
there probably was some good still lingering inside Snape but Snape 
is not a good occlumens for nothing. He can compartmentalize his 
feelings to such an extent that they no longer can balance his search 
for revenge. Maybe Snape truly hated DD for never picking his side, 
for never acknowledging Snape. I truly believe that the problems with 
Snape inability to let go of the past had more to do with DD then 
with the marauders because I truly believe that if DD had expelled 
them after that night that Snape would have let go and unfinished 
business has a tendency to comeback when one least expect it. So now 
we only have to wait for Snape to make an attempt on Lupin's life and 
Snape has eliminated every single person he thought to have 
responsibility in that night's events. I would not be surprised if 
Snape delivered the information about Peter to Lucius with the 
intention that Peter would sell out Sirius and maybe Lupin but that 
one bit Snape in the butt when Peter actually sold out James. 

Speculation of course but I do believe that the revelations about 
Snape will make the story of the marauders versus Snape fall into 
place and come full circle. DD put his trust in the wrong man as I 
believe he lost trust in Sirius and Snape set it up so in OotP that 
DD actually held Sirius responsible for the DoM ordeal. What more can 
a guy wish for, the one person that did not get the right punishment 
is now believed to have betrayed DD's trust and put Harry in danger 
and better yet he is now believed to be death. Yes, believed because 
I'm not convinced Sirius is actually dead, of course that is a 
different discussion but what fun would it be if Sirius thwarted 
Snape again and then say the joke is on you again Snivellus. You need 
to get up a little earlier to get ride of me. Oh well a girl can 
dream can't she? 

JMHO

Dana