What Dumbledore "believes" (was Re: What Harry "knows")
julie
juli17 at aol.com
Wed Jun 6 03:08:13 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 169872
> > Dana:
> > It specifically states that DD believed that it was Snape's
reason
> > for his *return* not turned. Harry does not stop DD in mid-
sentence.
> > He is talking about Snape greatest regret. Snape himself states
the
> > same thing in Spinner's end that he told DD a story of his
deepest
> > regret. JKR states that Snape told DD his story and DD believe
it.
> > Maybe it isn't all there is to it but her quote was before HBP
came
> > out and not after so at this point it might as well be all there
is
> > to it.
> >
> > http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2004/0304-wbd.htm
> >
> > Ali: Why specifically does Dumbledore trust Snape?
> > JK Rowling replies -> Another excellent and non-answerable
question.
> > I shall merely say that Snape has given Dumbledore his story and
> > Dumbledore believes it.
>
> colebiancardi:
>
> again, Harry does stop DD in mid-sentence. If you look at the Am Ed
> Hardcover of HBP:
>
> "You have no idea of the remorse Professor Snape felt when he
realized
> how Lord Voldemort had interpreted the prophecy, Harry. I believe
it
> to the be the greatest regret of his life and the reason that he
> returned ---"
> "But he's a very good Occlumens, isn't he, sir?" said Harry
>
> p 549
>
> the dashes tell me at least there is more to what DD was going to
say.
> Also, DD states it is HIS belief, not what Snape told him. So,
yes,
> I believe there is more to it and it hasn't been revealed. If the
> remorse is the only reason, I would think that to be very lame and
DD
> shouldn't have entrusted Snape to be spy for him.
Julie:
I'm wondering if we shouldn't take what Dumbledore's "believes" with
the same grain of salt as what Harry "knows"? Every time Dumbledore
says "I believe..." my suspicion is that he is leaving something very
important out of the equation.
Just as Harry's "knowing" something usually indicates he'll be proven
wrong, does Dumbledore's "I believe" indicate that he's dancing
around the edges of the truth, revealing only the smallest part of it?
The first example of this from Dumbledore was in PS/SS--"I do
*believe* he (Snape) worked so hard to protect you this year because
he felt that would make him and your father even."
It's a short and simple explanation, but it doesn't explain why Snape
*continues* to work so hard year after year to protect Harry. I know
some think Snape's in a constant battle to pay off that "debt" he
supposedly still owes James (Dumbledore in fact never refers to it as
an actual "life debt"), and it could be that Dumbledore is hedging
his bets here (like always!) and not telling Harry the true scope of
the debt. The question would be why, since Harry knowing that Snape
is constrained from physically harming him rather than choosing to
restrain himself isn't likely to change much in their acrimonious
relationship, IMO. (And Dumbledore did not hestitate to explain the
life debt principle when it was activated between Harry and the man
*he* saved, Peter Pettigrew.)
The main reason I don't buy it is because there is nothing whatsoever
in canon that implies a life debt carries over from father to son. In
fact it goes against JKR's own sentiment (expressed through
Dumbledore), that it is our choices which define us and our fates,
not our parents' choices or any other sort of predetermination. So I
think it's more likely there is something else, something even more
substantive than a sense of indebtedness left unpaid, that motivates
Snape to continually protect Harry from physical harm.
Besides these two "beliefs" Dumbledore relates to answer Harry's
probing questions (both not so strangely referring to the most
enigmatic character in the books), are there any other instances
where Dumbledore uses "I believe..." to preface a requested
explanation, especially when that request comes from Harry? I.e.,
other instances where Dumbledore gives an answer that while likely
true, is NOT the whole story or perhaps not even the most important
element of the story?
Julie
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