What Harry "knows", Was Why we'll get no further revelations Snape was Evil

[justcarol67]

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Dana wrote:
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> > Might I remind you that Snape did want to have Lupin soul sucked too? 
> 
> colebiancardi responded:
> 
> because he thought Lupin was in cahoots with Sirius, who at that
time, was still considered a mass-murderer <snip>

Carol adds:
Just responding to this one small point because I pretty much agree
with colebiancardi's responses.

Snape doesn't say, "Two more for the Dementors tonight." What he
actually says is "Two more Azkaban tonight" (PoA Am. ed. 339). Snape
is attempting a citizen's arrest of the man he thinks has been trying
to murder Harry and his accomplice, whom he has been telling DD all
along has been letting Black into the castle (338). Snape doesn't
mention Dementors until Lupin has accused him of allowing a "schoolboy
grudge" to distort his judgement, hermione has started to interfere,
and Black brings up the rat, at which point Snape taunts Black (and
only Black) about possibly receiving "a little kiss" from the
Dementors. He threatens to call the Dementors, but it's as empty a
threat as his occasional threats to expel Harry. And then he starts to
"drag the werewolf" and says, "Perhaps the Dementors will have a kiss
for him too" (560). There is, however, no indication that he actually
intends to do any such thing.

Having been knocked out and consequently lost his opportunity to bring
the transformed werewolf to what passes for justice in the WW, Snape
wakes up to find four unconscious people, three of whom he takes to
the hospital wing. He hands the unconscious Black over, not to the
Dementors directly, but to Fudge, the Minister for Magic, who has the
 legal authority to order the escaped prisoner and supposedly
extremely dangerous murderer Sirius Black to be soul-sucked (or sent
back to Azkaban as Snape originally stated). 

Had Snape succeeded in turning *Lupin* over to Fudge, Lupin would not
have been soul-sucked. The Dementors at that time were still under
Ministry control, and Lupin would have been escorted to Azkaban to
await trial (presumably after transforming back to human form), which
is exactly what Snape indicates with "Two more for Azkaban tonight." 

The exact same thing, minus the werewolf complications, would have
happened to Pettigrew had he not escaped thanks to Lupin's
transformation, and it's what *Harry* wants to happen once he
discovers that Pettigrew, not Black, is the "murderin' traitor":

"He can go to Azkaban," says Harry. "If anyone deserves that place, he
does." So Pettigrew, too, would have been handed over to the Dementors
(presumably by Fudge, not Harry) to be escorted to Azkaban and left
there in their terrible company like Hagrid and Sirius Black before him. 

Not to sound like Snape in one of his memorable but not exactly
shining moments, but I see no difference between Harry's intention and
Snape's, judging from Snape's original comments and his actions (as
opposed to his outbursts and sneers after he was provoked). The only
difference in these intended actions, neither of which was ever
accomplished, is that Harry was right about Pettigrew's guilt and
Snape was wrong about Lupin's. (I won't go into Lupin's year-long
policy of concealment or Snape's reasons for thinking that Lupin,
rather than Crookshanks, was Black's accomplice as they're irrelevant
here. The point is that he had the opportunity to take a bound and
gagged Black to the Dementors and he took him to Fudge instead.)

Carol, who thought that this was going to be a short post!