Say it isn't so Lupin!!!
Dana
ida3 at planet.nl
Fri Jun 8 17:02:22 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 170010
Pippin:
> I think OOP shows us very strongly what is wrong with this
> line of reasoning. It is just not enough to have acceptance from
> your friends. That can't make up for being deprived of your
> rights or being considered so monstrous no stranger would ask
> you to dinner, or let you be near their children, or even
> share a hospital room with you.
Dana:
And yet he still tries to live as any other wizard and against all
odds he maintains himself and keeps control even though life is
getting harder by the day.
OotP does not show us there is something wrong with this reasoning
because it is Hermione, Winky, Dobby and the rest of the house elves
that show us that change cannot be pressed upon a group that doesn't
want change. Dobby does not have the support of his kind and still he
changed and now is paid for his services. The rest of the house elves
shunt him for it and are disgraced by his way of thinking. Winky
can't get over losing her master and is not able to perform normally;
she is resisting the change she endured when both her masters were no
longer there to serve. Hermione tries to free the house-elves against
their will and it leads to them no longer cleaning the Gryffindor
tower and not more free house-elves.
Change can only exist if one person within such a group chooses to
change and no matter how hard the struggle, maintains his chosen
path. And Lupin does and although he strays for a moment when he
rejects Tonks love for him in HBP, at the end it got him back on the
right track.
> Pippin:
> Lupin's is not the voice against bigotry in canon. What has
> he ever done to win acceptance for werewolves? He has always
> tried to conceal what he was, as a student and then as a teacher.
> It's Hermione who has been working to change the hearts and
> minds of the WW. If she continues to believe in equal rights,
> and tells Harry why, despite Lupin's treachery, he should too,
> it will do far more for the cause of civil rights in the RW than
> creating pity for werewolves, who after all don't exist.
Dana:
Yes, he is because he chooses to remain living among wizards and not
chose the life that has been dedicated for werewolves by Greyback.
Lupin was send to spy on the werewolves but he in order to do that
had to gain some trust and now with Greyback gone, Lupin might become
the factor of change within the werewolf group and with them and his
friends together, after LV is defeated, they can start to demand to
be given rights like other humans within their society do.
I'm sorry but to me it seems ESE!Lupin is just a figure of the
imagination and actually proofs JKR's point because applying the
suspicion to him being ESE is what the rest of the WW does too, that
werewolves cannot be trusted. Yes, he has tried to conceal WHAT he
was but not WHO he was and he was just scared that people would not
judge him for who he was but for WHAT he was. He has trouble
attaching himself to people because of that and when he does attach
himself then he is again very afraid to lose it but that does not
make him a traitor.
On the contrary, his problem of telling the truth in PoA because of
the internal conflict he was struggling with, indicates that he would
never want to betray his friends and he could not chose between
revealing a secret he shared with one group of friends to a person
who gave him a chance to a normal life, who made it possible for him
to have these friends. So instead he denied Sirius using his animagus
form to enter the castle. It was wrong no doubt about it but he still
did not want to just betray any of them. Sure he states that he just
did it because he was scared of losing DD's trust but he also gives
himself the guilt of his friends becoming illegal animagi, while
James and Sirius are surely not people who could be told what to do
and even if Lupin had been against it they would have done it anyway.
Hermione has not been changing the hearts and minds of the WW because
people do not take her endless preaching seriously. Although she has
the heart in the right place she only looks at it from her own point
of view and not from those she is making a statement for. It is
somewhat like setting free minks by environmentalist, these animals
are not sweet cuddly creatures and in one such an attempt they killed
every single pet they came across in their search for freedom. So
they saved the lives of these animals while causing the death of many
others. That was not what they set out to do but it nevertheless had
this result. Setting these animals free is not the way and it
actually had a negative effect on public opinion because these
animals were so aggressive that no one was sorry they ended up as
coats.
Change within human communities has to come from within the community
and the people it involves because people not living their lives they
do, cannot possibly understand what it is like for them and then when
the people who's rights it concerns fight for it then people outside
these groups can fight along side them as supporting factor.
The house-elves should be given the right to chose if they want to
change or not. You cannot force freedom as Hermione perceives it upon
them. Winky is free but totally miserable and that means it would
never work to force them to be free. The only thing the WW can do is
allow the house-elves to serve people on their own conditions so that
giving them clothes is no longer needed to release them from their
obligations. Treat them bad and you find yourself without a servant
but still they must want these changes in regulations themselves or
otherwise it will not work.
It is just my opinion but I do not think any of the books gives
indication that Lupin was put in there to show a disease will give
you no other option then to be ESE. Lupin is extremely brave
regardless of not believing enough in himself. Lupin will open up the
way for those werewolves that will choose to be human first and
werewolf second and eventually when more werewolves chose to live in
harmony with the WW the more the bigotry against them will decrease.
Molly was a bigot against werewolfs but she still respected Remus and
let him comfort her. Harry can't even see the dangerous part Lupin
has to him and neither could his dad. So the more people you know who
are what they are the more acceptance will grow but it still has to
come from within and them making the first step and proof that they
are not out there to kill and make as many werewolves as they
possibly can. Greyback is like that but like Remus, werewolves not
under his (Greyback) control might not specifically want to chose
such a life either.
JMHO
Dana
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