Say it isn't so Lupin!!!

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Fri Jun 8 14:36:05 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 170001

TKJ:
> LV find out that he is undercover amongst the Werewolves and goes to
> him. Tells him that even if he is defeated that the WW will never
> accept Werewolves among them. Especially, now with DD gone what hope
> does he have? LV explains to him that if he helps he promises to let
> the werewolves be and not have to live in hiding. 
> 
> Lupin thinks about it and doesn't want to help him but is scared by
> the idea of what is going to happen to him when he isn't needed by the
> Order anymore and the WW is happily free of LV and how he will most
> likely be treated badly and turns on the Order and helps LV.
>

Pippin:
Ah, a  new ESE!Lupin theorist! You've come to the right place <veg>
You might consider that far from turning traitor in Book Seven, Lupin
has been serving two masters for a long time. But see my published
works <g> 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/146764?var=1&l=1

Lupin's motives are as yet a mystery, but I believe the solution is already
laid out for us.

You have only to consider Harry's hopeless situation in OOP, in almost 
constant pain, in dread of the monster inside him, feeling "contaminated",
the same word Lupin uses in HBP to describe the effects of the werewolf
bite, expected to hold back his anger no matter what, feeling that
he's let Dumbledore down and can't ask for his help, subjected to a
government sponsored smear campaign and a progressive attempt 
to eliminate his rights and take away everything he enjoys about 
being a wizard. He has friends, but much as he loves them, they 
don't really understand, and he's too ashamed of his feelings to 
tell them. 

Now multiply that by a lifetime, and you have an idea about what
it's like to be Remus Lupin. It would take more than the patience
of a saint to put up with all that, it would take the forbearance of
an angel, and Remus, alas, is only human. 

It's hard to imagine the Lupin of PoA turning to Voldemort,
but consider that towards the end of OOP, Harry was seeing Snape
(Snape!)  not only as an ally but his only hope. In his desperation
to save Sirius, all  his misgivings and antagonism just evaporated.
They came back soon enough, but if he thought Snape had
actually helped him, if Sirius had been saved, I think it would
have had a powerful effect on Harry. It would henceforth have
been very difficult for him to refuse anything that Snape asked. 

And Voldemort has always been able to charm the people he
needed.  Harry has been taken in more than once.

Now, no matter how much Harry has hated, he's never wanted to feel  
Voldemort's power rising within him or use it on his enemies. I
think he will face that temptation in Book Seven. He'll be strong.
But Lupin is weak, and weak people, as Snape told us, stand
no chance against the Dark Lord's powers.  


Dana:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/169993
It is not the WW that has to accept werewolves but
werewolves wanting to be part of society, if they do not then
acceptance from the other side does not matter. The same goes for
Remus, he has to accept that people who care for him to accept him
for WHO he is and not reject him for WHAT he is.Some people will
but they are not the people you want to as your friend anyway and
that will never change not even if the WW publicly acknowledges
werewolves.

Pippin:
I think OOP shows us very strongly what is wrong with this
line of reasoning. It is just not enough to have acceptance from
your friends. That can't make up for being deprived of your
rights or being considered so monstrous no stranger would ask
you to dinner, or let you be near their children,  or even 
share a hospital room with you. 

Dana:
Also I very much doubt that JKR, who is against bigotry, will make
the person, she gave a problem that would cause him to endure a lot
of such bigotry, live up to that bigotry by making him a traitor.

Pippin:
Lupin's is not the voice against bigotry in canon. What has
he ever done to win acceptance for werewolves?  He has always
tried to conceal what he was, as a student and then as a teacher.
It's Hermione who has been working to change the hearts and
minds of the WW. If she continues to believe in equal rights,
and tells Harry why, despite Lupin's treachery, he should too,
it will do far more for the cause of civil rights  in the RW than
creating pity for werewolves, who after all don't exist.

Pippin





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