Snape - a werewolf bigot?? Was: Say it isn't so Lupin!!!

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 11 18:54:06 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 170140

Carol:
<SNIP>

If you've never used language that
> you're not proud of when you're angry and humiliated, then you're a
> better person than I am.
<SNIP>

Alla:

Hmmmm, I had the language comparable to how I see *mudblood* 
translated in RL being used against me a plenty of times and could 
care less if the people who did this would bring up as defense that 
they were angry or humiliated, really. 


Carol:
<SNIP>
 Hagrid, as a "good guy," does a number of
> questionable things, but because he's the Trio's friend and the 
person
> who introduced Harry to the WW, we're not supposed to criticize him?
<SNIP>

Alla:

Eh, I think Mike's point was that if one thinks that Hagrid is a 
bigot, it is sort of a double standard to say that Snape is not and I 
agree with it.

I totally think that Hagrid made a bigoted remark by the way. I 
despise Filch after OOP, but he has a name, and it is not **Squib**.



 
Carol:
<SNIP>
> In any case, prejudice against werewolves is not only extremely
> widespread, almost universal, among witches and wizards, at least
> those who grew up in the WW and know what a werewolf can do, it's
> understandable, just as understandable as the "prejudice" against
> giants, who turn out to be exactly like Ron said they'd be, 
murdering
> even their own kind.
<SNIP>

Alla:

Yes, it is widespread, but understandable based on what some giants 
and some werewolves do? Not to me. Not all giants are murdering their 
own kind. Some of them do.


Carol:
<SNIP>
> At any rate, Snape is only one of many wizards who shows some form 
of
> prejudice, some of it understandable, but he's criticized because 
he's
> Snape and a Slytherin, and Hagrid is excused because he's Hagrid 
and a
> Gryffindor.

Alla:

Um, okay, Snape is one of many, so how does it make his behaviour any 
better? Or and who excuses Hagrid? I most certainly do not in case of 
his remark against Filch. 


Carol:
<BIG SNIP>
 And MWPP are praised because they thought it was "cool" to
> run with a werewolf and learned to become Animagi to do it, but 
they,
> too, treat "Moony" as a werewolf. Everything from this nickname to
> their response to the DADA exam and their idea of fun (not counting
> attacking fellow students who are studying the exam questions,
> Hermione-style) relates to that. They certainly didn't hesitate to
> assume that he was the spy later, and why would they think that
> (Peter's presumed whisperings and insinuations aside) if he weren't 
a
> werewolf?
<SNIP>


Alla:

That is your opinion Carol, mine is that they treat him as friend, 
whose life they want to make easier and more bearable.
They sure think it is fun and it is a reckless fun of course, but 
treat him as werewolf primarily?



But I see no evidence that they treat him first and foremost as 
werewolf. His nickname is Moony? Well, they called themselves by the 
name of the animals as well. Does that mean that they treated Sirius 
as dog and Peter as rat?

And why would they think he is a spy? One speculation  is that Remus 
dissappeared way too often and they wondered where he is - he was not 
even at christening as we know, I am not sure if it was by Potters 
choice.

JMO,

Alla





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