Werewolves and RL equivalents

Goddlefrood gav_fiji at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 19 23:20:09 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 170468

> > Goddlefrood:

> > Lupin, while having been a member of the Order 
> > and a spy on the werewolves, was only under 
> > Dumbledore's school administration for a year 
> > as a teacher. It makes sense to this reader that 
> > Dumbledore would be more concerned for Hagrid's 
> > wellbeing than for Lupin's. He quiote possibly 
> > also needed Remus to return to his Order duties. 
> > Lupin does benefit either way in that he continues 
> > to have DD's patronage.
 
> houyhnhnm:
 
> Lupin had no Order duties to return to.  The Order 
> was disbanded at the time. Hagrid, for whom Dumbledore 
> stood up twice, is not the only comparison.  There are 
> also the examples of Trelawney and Firenze, neither of 
> whom Dumbledore would turn away because they had no safe 
> place to go.  It makes sense to me that Dumbledore would 
> be concerned for the well-being of all those served under 
> him, especially Lupin who was apparantly destitute and 
> starving when he came to Hogwarts.  There is no example 
> to the contrary. 

Goddlefrood:

Answering this second point as zgirnius has explained the 
earlier query of our intelligent horse friend in message: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/170461

The Order of the Phoenix, while being regathered in GoF was 
not necessarily disbanded. Lupin's spying on the werewolves 
could well have been an ongoing situation and useful to DD, 
especially if a close eye on Greyback is necessary. In my 
contemplation of the workings of the WW it would be something 
that makes a great deal of sense, that is the movements of the 
werewolves under Greyback. 

Many a possible strike could be averted in this manner and as 
I also mentioned in my previous this is a function that Lupin 
has fulfilled quite probably on and off since the original Order 
days back in the groovy 70s. That he may be a peripheral member 
of the pack and perhaps not wholly trusted by Greyback would 
not detract from his role. As long as he had some contact with 
his fellow ravenning beasts then he could pick up information 
that would assist.

And yes, he would have had to leave the school anyway after 
the one year of teaching. It seems likely that to avert a more 
adverse manner of leaving some prior plan was worked our. How 
that then reconciles with the perceived plan of Severus and DD 
to pull a similar stunt in HBP I would not like to say, but I 
am sure many of you would.

On the other comparitors brought in in the above quote I would 
suggest that they are perhaps less than prescient. Sybil had to 
be at the school for her own safety and DD would not, on his own 
statement, allow her to leave in case she were then used by LV 
or one of his servants to divulge the Prophecy, which while she 
has no knowledge of making she would have an extractable memory 
of from my perspective. Bertha Jorkins' memory of Barty Junior 
was extracted and I see no reason to suppose that somehow Sybil's 
of the Prophecy could not have been had she fallen into the 
wrong hands.

On Firenze similar sentiments apply, had he not been under DD's 
charge then he would have been mauled and maybe killed by his 
herd. Far better to leave him in the Castle to nurture his 
burgeoning friendship with Minerva ;-)

Lupin's case is very different. He had to leave due to the curse. 
Somehow or other he'd have been ousted so why not then ensure 
that the ouster occurs without actually physically harming him?

Goddlefrood, writing posts when he should be writing other 
things ;-)





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