Justice to Snape WAS: Re: Werewolves? There Wolves!

[lupinlore]

No: HPFGUIDX 170619

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214"
<dumbledore11214 at ...> wrote:
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> Alla:
>
> Sure, it is a possibility. There is also another possibility - Snape
> is not saying anything to Harry, because he is **not** sorry about
> his parents death at all IMO.

Lupinlore:
Or maybe not JUST sorry, if he's sorry at all.  Maybe he feels hatred
for James, and thus by extension hatred for Harry.  Maybe he feels
love for Lily.  Maybe he feels anger at the life debt.  Maybe he
feels anger at the debt he owes to DD.  Maybe he hates Voldy for
messing up in Godric's Hollow and getting him into this bind to start
with.  Maybe he feels all of the above.

None of which excuses his actions or reprehensible abusive behavior
in any way, form, or fashion, I'd say.  And not of which excuses him
from punishment.

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> Alla:
>
> Well, sure, we do not know what DD did, but we know one thing - DD
> did not sent him to Azkaban and DD did let him teach in Hogwarts,
no?

Lupinlore:
And looked the other way while he repeatedly and constantly abused
Harry.  Which, I think, is a heavy moral burden the story must deal
with, if we are not to have an author approving of child abuse.

Alla:
>  Why is it when it comes to Snape do we think that DD is suddenly
> unreliable.

Lupinlore:
Because he's already shown himself to be contemptibly incompetent in
allowing Snape to abuse Harry and Neville, I suppose.  Because he
failed to intervene firmly to put a stop to the Dursleys' abuse of
Harry?  I'd say he's shown himself to be extremely incompetent and
unreliable in anything concerning Harry (and Snape is inextricably
bound up with Harry).

Alla:
> Dumbledore says that Snape regretted it when he learned the couple
> names? Maybe, as I said I want to hear it from Snape's mouth to
> believe it.

Lupinlore:
Well, I guess that's PART of what Snape has to do for redemption.
But only part.

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Alla:
> My crow is handy nearby, but I am not starting to cook it yet <g>
>

Lupinlore:
Hmmm.  I don't know about the whole DDM! thing.  I think it is as
likely an outcome as any other.  It would be clumsy and, I think,
incredibly cheesy, but all possibilities have severe problems.
However JKR gets herself out of the corner she's backed into, it will
involve a great deal of hand-waving and contrived plotting to
severely strain believability.

I will, however, make my woodchipper handy should the ending be as
big a reprehensible moral failure (for instance, nice is not the same
as good, loyalty excuses cruelty and abuse) as I suspect it might.
As I've said before, I'll even let you keep the mulch.  :-)


Lupinlore, who made sure to buy gas for the chipper while a couple of
the local stations had a price war going on.