Snape's the Rescuer - Really?/Justice to Snape

colebiancardi muellem at bc.edu
Sat Jun 23 22:29:58 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 170676

Re: Snape's the Rescuer - Really?/Justice to Snape


> > colebiancardi:
> >
> > well, considering how much Sirius mouths off to Snape, can you blame
> > Snape for gagging him? I would ;) I am sure I wouldn't want to
> > listen to taunts & insults from someone I thought once tried to kill
> > me (zee prank) and is still considered to be an escaped murderer.
> >
> > There is no lost love between the two of them - I don't think it a
> > suprise or at all *telling* that Snape did this. We know that they
> > both loathe each other. I am quite sure if the shoe was on the other
> > foot, Snape would be gagged as well.
> >
>
>
> Alla:
>
> Yeah, I actually can blame him, LOL. A lot. Not in the interpretation
> you gave of course, but in the interpetation that Snape knew that
> Sirius was innocent - whether he learned that Peter alive earlier or
> now, does not matter, just that he knew and did not want the truth to
> be known.
>
> So, no love lost or not, I absolutely will blame Snape who knows that
> Sirius is innocent and did not want innocent man to tell his story.
>
> If Snape knows it of course.
>
colebiancardi:

I am not sure what you mean by "Snape knew that Sirius was innocent -
whether he learned that Peter alive earlier or now, does not matter,
just that he knew..."

I have just reread those passages in PoA and there is nothing leading
up to Snape's appearance in the Shack where Sirius reveals that the
rat is Peter and all Sirius says to Snape is "the rat, look at the
rat". As far as Snape knows, Sirius is deranged from his time in
Azkaban - afterall, he's been there for 12 years. Scabbers isn't
revealed as Peter until after he is knocked out cold.

He doesn't see Scabbers transform into Peter, nor hear Peter's tale,
nor does he see Peter transform back into a rat outside. Snape has no
idea about this, as far as we know(like you said)

So, if I was in Snape's shoes, I would have done the same thing
(turned him over to the MoM). He isn't a judge or a jury; he is acting
on what he knows about Sirius. Which is the same as the rest of the
Wizarding World; Lupin thinks it about Sirius, Arthur Weasley thinks
it and I would think, as DD didn't do anything to save Sirius 12 years
prior, that even Dumbledore thinks that about Sirius - an escaped
murderer from Azkaban. 

Now, of course, that is in Snape's shoes. If one wasn't Snape and did
not have a hate-hate relationship with Sirius, one might be more
inclined to listen to the escaped murderer while leading him up(bound,
of course) to the castle.


But I do have to ask - where is the part where Sirius is gagged?  And
by Snape? The passage I have read is this:

"Snape had regained consciousness.  He was conjuring stretchers and
lifting the limp forms of Harry, Hermoine, and Black onto them.  A
fourth stretcher, no doubt bearing Ron, was already floating at his
side.  Then, wand held out in front of him, he moved them away towards
the castle."

PoA, Am Ed hardback, p 412

I cannot find where Snape "bound & gagged" Sirius.  Sirius was out
cold.  Unlike Sirius's treatment of Snape, when Snape was unconscious,
Snape treats them pretty good.

from same book, p 378
"Harry went right after Black, who was still making Snape drift along
ahead of them; he kept bumping his lolling head on the low ceiling. 
Harry had the impression that Black was making no effort to prevent this"

This just goes to prove that Sirius, in his relationship with Snape,
is no better or worse than Snape.  In fact, Snape is treats Sirius
better, because at least he conjured stretchers for them, instead of
the Mobilicorpus spell.
 
colebiancardi
(JMHO, of course)





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