Snape's the Rescuer - Really?/Justice to Snape
lanval1015
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Sat Jun 23 22:54:00 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 170680
>
> Pippin:
> Ron was unconscious because he was hit by Pettigrew's spell. It's
> no ordinary stunner, because he's still out of it when Harry and
> Hermione set off on their adventure. Madam Pomfrey is none too
> happy about his condition "He'll live" she says "grimly" -- and
> that last word is a subtle reminder that as far as she knows,
> Ron was injured by Sirius Black. Snape, of course, would think
> the same.
>
> (One might speculate that Ron at least owes his life directly
> to Snape and that he might have died from Pettigrew's curse
> if Snape had not been there. We know Snape knows more about
> reversing Dark Magic than Madam Pomfrey at any rate.)
>
Lanval:
We know Madam Pomfrey likes to exaggerate the state of her patients,
so I wouldn't put too much into her "he'll live".
Ron is awake and talking coherently when Harry and Hermione return,
when very little time has actually elapsed. It's not as if Ron was
out for days. He leaves the Hospital Wing the next day, along with
the two others. We know stunning spells can have more severe
consequences for people who are weak or elderly, and Ron was in a
lot of pain already when the spell hit him, which is perhaps why he
remained knocked out for a bit longer than expected.
Besides, Crookshanks gets hit with what I assume to be the same
spell, same strength, and since I don't believe for a minute that
the Rat was trying to be gentle with that particular cat, and no
harm has come to Crookshanks, I must logically assume that the spell
was harmless enough.
Pippin:
> Regardless of whether they were in immediate danger from
> the werewolf, Snape would assume there was danger from Sirius.
> As for whether it was necessary to gag Sirius, we've been told
> nonverbal spells are weaker than spoken ones. Snape
> would be taking no chances.
>
Lanval:
But Sirius neither had a wand, nor could he move, being bound. Do we
know of any spells that are nonverbal, wandless AND require no hand
movement?
Nah. Snape didn't want Sirius to talk.
Pippin:
> Snape's behavior in the Hospital Wing is in character for the
> part he is playing -- insisting that his old rival must pay,
wanting
> glory for himself, and saying that he thinks Harry is being
> indulged by the Headmaster into thinking too much of himself.
> Those are not crimes, either for Snape or for Harry, so it
> hardly matters whether Fudge agrees or not.
>
> The thing Snape could really use to get Harry expelled, proof
> that Harry had broken wizarding law, Snape chooses not to use.
> He doesn't blame Harry, Ron and Hermione for attacking him.
>
> Pippin
>
Lanval:
Well, Pippin, you lost me here,as surely you knew you would. :)
Since I don't believe for a second that Snape is acting, I can't
discuss that possibility.
As to Snape not blaming the kids -- why mention them in the first
place? Fudge assumed the "nasty cut" to be caused by Sirius, and
Snape corrects him, saying it was the kids. Why? Sounds like a good
way and a perfect time to bring up the Confunded theory --which not
only glosses over the embarrassing fact that Snape was overcome by
three third years, but it would also support that the kids really
*were* Confunded. Attacking a teacher!
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