Snape's the Rescuer - Really?/Justice to Snape

[colebiancardi]

No: HPFGUIDX 170690


> Alla:
> 
> Oh man, you know what - I cannot find it either. Did I just assume 
> that? ;)
> 
> Hmmmm, must run, hoping that somebody else will find that :) So, not 
> saying OOOPS yet, but certainly will :)

colebiancardi:

found it!!  No OOOPSIE for you!!  pg 387-388 AmEd Hardcover PoA

Fudge speaking:
"Extradordinary.  And yet Black, and Harry, and the girl --"
"All unconscious by the time I reached them. I bound and gagged Black,
naturally, conjured stretchers, and brought them all straight back to
the castle." <<=Snape speaking of course

Well, I don't *know* why Snape bound & gagged Sirius when Sirius was
out cold, but then again, Snape also tells the whopper of the Trio
being under Sirius' Confundus Charm.  I can only think that Snape is
embellishing here.  Ironic, as he accuses the Trio of having a "rather
high opinion of themselves", and I view Snape, during his give & take
with Fudge, in the same way.  


> 
> Alla: Oh and OF COURSE Sirius does not treat Snape any better when
Snape 
> is unconscious.
> For better for worse, rightly or wrongly Sirius treats Snape as 
> enemy.
> 
> I do not think he treats him in the worst possible way one can treat 
> an enemy, since I do not see him deliberately injuring Snape, but he 
> definitely does not care.
> 
> I understand that and to me, truly this is much more honest, against 
> rightly or wrongly than what Snape does.
> 
colebiancardi:

well, Snape is not deliberatiely injuring Sirius either.  He is
turning him over to the MoM for further review.  As I stated before,
the whole wizarding world thinks Sirius is a murderer.  Even
Dumbledore, who *now* believes in Sirius's innocence, tells Harry
(snipping several passages)

"There is not a shred of proof to support Black's story, except your
word - and the word of two thirteen-year-old wizards will not convince
anybody.  A street full of eyewitnesses swore they saw Sirius murder
Pettigrew.  I myself gave evidence to the Ministry that Sirius had
been the Potter's Secret-Keeper"

"Sirius has not acted like an innocent man.  The attack on the Fat
Lady -- entering Gryffindor Tower with a knife -- without Pettigrew,
alive or dead, we have no chance of overturning Sirius's sentence"
same book, pgs 392-393

I don't think that Snape acted out of bounds.  Sure, he threatened
Sirius with the soul-sucking kiss, but in the end, his sense of duty
returned made him return Sirius to the proper authorities.

And yes, they both hate each other with a passion.   

>Alla:
>What puzzles me is when what Snape does is being called **nice**, 
> you know?
> 
> To me delivering one to be kissed and hoping that Dumbledore would 
> not interfere is not **nice** in any way, shape or form, but very 
> very cruel.

colebiancardi:

I didn't say  Snape treated Sirius "nicely", lord knows!!  I said that
Sirius received better treatment when he was out cold from Snape than
Snape received at the hands of Sirius.  

Again, how Snape perceives Sirius is no different than anyone else in
the Wizarding World up to that point.  Dumbledore believed it for 12
years, until Harry told him the events that had happened.  So, I am
not going to hold it against Snape, not in this case.  

If someone, who was an escaped murderer, showed up in my backyard, I
would not ask that person in for tea.  I would lock all my doors and
call the police to take that person in.  If that person is innocent,
then that is what the law is for.  

In Sirius's case, WE know he is innocent (at the end - we didn't know
that at all through-out of PoA).  But to the characters in the book,
that is something they don't know and they, along with Snape, are all
operating under that assumption.

colebiancardi
(I am reminded of what ASSUME means...makes an ASS out of U and ME -
LOL - well, I will find out if I have been an ASS about Snape in less
than a month!!)