The twins? (was: Dumbledore's Fall)

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Mon Jun 25 14:05:10 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 170741

> Pippin:
> <snip the main points of your post, to get to this>
> > IMO, Snape could have saved Dumbledore from the poison. But
> > he never got the chance, because Dumbledore didn't want him
> > to have it. The mission was more important. Snape was not
> > allowed to help Dumbledore, just as the Twins were not allowed
> > to go to their father in OOP even though he might have been
> > dying, because it would have given away too  much. 
> 
> 
> SSSusan:
> Erm... Pippin?  I know I am only sporadically able to keep up with 
> posting here, so this might be a long-ago expressed position/theory of 
> yours and I've just missed it... but could you say what you're talking 
> about here with the twins?  Are you implying they're ESE! as well?  
> What would their having gone to Arthur have potentially given away?  
>
Pippin:
LOL! Pippin the ESE!Queen strikes again!....er, sorry, bit of pre-release 
giddiness  there. Note to self: must not giggle madly while staring at
screen :)

But to answer your question,  the twins not being allowed to go to 
Arthur is not a theory of mine, it's unvarnished canon, from OOP,
ch 22.  The twins wanted to go to St. Mungo's as soon as they'd
found out he'd been injured, and Sirius has to explain that he
can't let them. 
---
"Listen, your dad's been hurt while on duty for the Order and
the circumstances are fishy enough without his children 
knowing about it seconds after it happened, you could seriously
damage the Order's--"
"We don't care about the dumb Order!" shouted Fred.
"It's our dad dying we're talking about" yelled George.
"Your father knew what he was getting into, and he won't
thank you for messing things up for the Order!" said
Sirius angrily in his turn. "This is how it is--this is why
you're not in the Order--you don't understand--there are
things worth dying for!"
---
Sirius's words have an echo of Ron's in SS/PS -- "That's
chess. You have to make sacrifcies."

If Dumbledore had to die alone and in pain in order
not to damage the Order's plans, he would do it, and he
wouldn't thank Snape or Harry if they messed it up for
him.

C'est la guerre.

Pippin





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