Harry's dreams in GoF

Dondee Gorski sweetophelia4u at yahoo.com
Fri Mar 2 02:03:19 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 165606

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67"
<justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
>> I'm re-re-re-re-reading GoF, and I'm curious about what other
posters think of the point of view in the two dream chapters. In OoP, when Harry's dreaming or hallucinating, he always sees from Voldemort's pov (or Nagini's, when LV is possessing her). <<
>> <snip>
>> But in GoF, the first dream is from the pov of an unknown Muggle, Frank Bryce, who dies at the end of the dream, not from Voldemort's pov. << <snip>


Dondee responds:
We are dealing with two perspectives here, Frank's real time
experiences and Harry's dream. We don't know when Harry started
dreaming or, more to the point, where he started dreaming. I think
that Harry's dream started in the room with LV and Wormtail and then
they were joined by Nagini and shortly after by Frank. Harry doesn't
know Frank is there until LV does IMO, but we, the readers, are
introduced to him and the story about the Riddles beforehand.


Carol continues:
>> In the second dream, Harry is riding on the back of the eagle owl
that Fake!Moody has sent to inform Voldemort that he's murdered his
father, Mr. Crouch. << <snip>

Dondee responds:
This one is harder to explain away. Here is my admittedly flimsy
reasoning... Harry is in Trelawney's room - a place predisposed to
psychic phenomina (however questionable)and full of whatever the
heck is in those perfumed fumes. He is overtired and preoccupied
from the whole Crouch thing, he falls asleep. Could it be that due
to his preoccuped thoughts and psychic vulnerability due to lack of
sleep and the fumes that he sort of astral projects? He is
preoccupied with Crouch, LV is preoccupied with Crouch, the eagle is
sending word about Crouch. Is the part of Harry's mind thats tuned
into LV zooming to where LV is along side, or astride, the eagle
thats zooming along to LV with an important message?

Flimsy ::sigh::

But, I do think I'm right about the first dream.

Cheers, Dondee >^,,^<





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