The Eagle Owl/Re: Harry's dreams in GoF

[Annemehr]

No: HPFGUIDX 165708

 
> Carol responds:
> Which goes back to my original point. The dreams and visions in 
*OoP*
> are from Voldemort's perspective, except for the fake vision that LV
> implants in Harry's brain (a clue that it's not real, Harry?). Even
> when Harry sees from Nagini's perspective, it's because Voldemort is
> possessing the snake. So, as you say, harry *is* Voldemort in those
> dreams. It's the two dreams in *GoF* that are experienced by the
> reader, and presumably by Harry, from points of view other than
> Voldemort's.

Annemehr:
I think what is really going on is a progression in the mind link.

In the dreams in GoF, while LV is in that Ugly Baby body, what Harry 
sees are LV's *external* actions.  However, after LV is reborn by a 
potion using Harry's blood, the dreams become conduits of LV's 
*internal* thoughts and feelings as well, which is why it is only 
then that Harry *is* Voldemort in his dreams.

(The jumbled dreams are something else altogether; Harry even had one 
after DD's death, about DD throwing him rope ladders that turned into 
snakes.)

There seems to be a progression in the episodes of scar pain, similar 
to what happens to the dreams.  In PS/SS, even when Quirrell!Mort is 
about to attack Harry in the Forest, the pain is great, but at 
Cedric's murder, it is so much greater that Harry falls to his knees 
and retches.  Then again in OoP, though LV is at a distance during 
the school year, Harry has begun to discern swoops of emotion, which 
he learns to interpret, along with the twinges in his scar.

It's all a dramatisation of the gradually strengthening link between 
the two.  And though HBP gives us a respite due to LV's use of 
Occlumency, I don't suppose any of us expect that to continue through 
all of DH.

Annemehr

P.S. And just for clarity, my opinion is that, just as the whole 
story of the Riddle murders in Little Hangleton at the beginning of 
GoF is not part of Harry's dream, neither is the story, told from 
Frank Bryce's point of view, of Frank waking up and going on to 
eavesdrop on LV part of Harry's dream.  I believe Harry only dreamed 
the part at the end that deals with LV's words and actions.