[HPforGrownups] Hermione and 'Evil is a strong word' (WAS Re: CHAPDISC: HBP30, The White Tomb)

[Ronin_47]

No: HPFGUIDX 165898

--Zgirnius Wrote-- 
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>>>zgirnius:
This is your opinion. I do not share it, and I do not see why
Hermione must. Hermione is aware of the following good actions of
Snape, which have occured over the past six years:

1) Saving Harry from Quirrell in PS/SS
2) End of PoA - I think she would believe him sincere in his comments
to her and Harry in the Shack - in other words, he was after Sirius
because he was the traitor
3) Revealing his Dark Mark to Fudge
4) Teaching Harry Occlumency (I think she did read up on it, and has
reason to believe Harry's reaction is typical in the early stages)
5) Not providing Umbridge with Veritaserum in OotP
6) Sending the Order to the MoM (and checking on Sirius)
7) Saving Dumbledore's life
8) Saving Katie Bell's life <<< 
 
--Then, a_svirn Wrote-- 
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 >>> a_svirn:
To start with, out of your list only the first point is undisputable. 
The rest of your points has been challenged on-list over the years. 
(And the seventh is certainly negated by his actions later on). More 
importantly, it is not why Hermione had been defending Snape in the 
past. Every time Harry started on Snape, his doubtful loyalties and 
murky past what did she say to him? Come on, Harry, Dumbledore 
trusts him, and Dumbledore knows best. But now this argument is no 
longer valid, is it? Dumbledore has been proved wrong. 
 <<<
 
 
--Ronin-s Comments--
Technically, any point made by either side is disputable. 
I could say that Quirrell was just watching the Quiditch match and Snape was
really the one working the jinx. Just because Snape claimed he was trying to
help Harry doesn't make it true when their own (Ron's & Hermione's) eye
witness accounts portray Snape as the culprit.
 
Number 7 is probably the most relevant point on the list because we KNOW
that Dumbledore himself has said that Snape was the only one who could help
him as he did when his hand was cursed. It was definitely Snape who kept the
curse from spreading and killing Dumbledore.
 
Yes. The argument is STILL quite valid. Dumbledore has not been proven right
or wrong as of yet. All we have to go on are the presumptions made by a
teenage boy during a very emotional and traumatic event.
You may believe that Dumbledore's real reason for trusting Snape without a
doubt was as Harry said, "Snape passed Voldemort the information that made
Voldemort hunt down my mum and dad. Then Snape told Dumbledore that he
hadn't realized what he was doing, he was really sorry he'd done it, sorry
that they were dead." - Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince, pg. 616, 1st
American Hardcover Edition.
This is what Harry ASSUMES. It's hardly the ironclad reason that Dumbledore
would've trusted Snape. It's no more ironclad than if Fenrir Greyback had
come and said, "I'm really sorry that I've been attacking children. Can I be
the DADA professor now please?"
 
The point is that we won't know until DH has been read, and even then, we
may have questions. I fear that Dumbledore's ironclad reason for trusting
Severus may have died with him. But I am as certain as is possible based on
what I've read in canon, that Harry's reasoning for DD's trusting Snape is
NOT correct. Hermione may just be bright enough to see through this as well.
She could likely put it together for herself that this was a ridiculous
reason for DD to trust Snape and knew that Harry was just basing his OPINION
on his hate for Snape and the emotion of what had just transpired.
 
Cheers,
Ronin


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