[HPforGrownups] Re: Dumbledore as a judge of character (Was:Why DD did not ask Snape to kill him

[Sherry Gomes]

No: HPFGUIDX 166044

Carol:

Please note that I'm not taking my position for granted. But *what if* there
was no other way to save Harry? Surely, taking the hatred of the WW onto
himself to save Harry from the Death Eaters would be what was right rather
than what was easy. Wouldn't *saving Harry's life* justify what would
otherwise be unjustifiable?



Sherry:

Ok, Carol, since you asked.  No.  it is not justifiable to me.  I'm sorry.
This is deeply ingrained in my psyche, life is always preferable.  Where
there's life there's hope and all that.  My doctors told me that in my
childhood, to help me learn to live with a seriously disabling disease.
Well, it did not seriously disable me, well, some, yeah, but I'm still
kicking.  And that's neither here nor there to this discussion, just
explaining part of my outlook.  I cannot believe there was *no* other
option.  It is just something I cannot accept, and I'm sure I will not be
able to accept it on a philosophical sort of way, if it turns out to be the
facts of the book.  I will never have peace with it.  It doesn't make sense
for Dumbledore just to give up.  So, maybe, I have more faith in Dumbledore
than I thought I did, because I think he could have pulled something far
better than murder out of his hat.

Dana actually made some very good points in a response to this, and I won't
repeat them here, except to say I agree with nearly everything she said.


Carol, asking Sherry to please answer only the hypothetical point, the "what
if", and not argue that this wasn't Snape's only option, which is not the
point of the post


Sherry:

Ok, but my answer is still no.  I can't really argue against a hypothetical
without considering other options.  Since I do not believe Snape's only
option was to murder Dumbledore, I can't just say, ok since there was no
other option, sure go commit murder.  But even if I could, my answer would
still be no.

I've read many wonderful books, great histories or historical fiction, in
which the good guys have to kill.  But they do not kill their own; they kill
the bad guys, the enemies of their land or their home, or the oppressors
taking away their freedoms.  They don't then turn around and off their own
people, not and still claim to have a noble and honorable cause.  If there
have been true historical people who have killed someone like that in the
course of a war, or a spy killing his own leaders to prove something to the
bad guys, or to keep the bad guys from getting their hands on that person,
well, that still does not excuse it for me.  It's still an act of cowardice
and unacceptable.

Carol:
P.S. I'm half-afraid that my P.S. will detract from my post, which I really
want an answer to, but what kind of "good Snape scenario"
*would* you accept?


Sherry:
There's only one or two good Snape scenarios I can easily live with.

1.  If Dumbledore was actually dead and it can be proven that he was, and if
he was dead by something besides the potion in the cave, and Snape realized
it and faked the murder.  I can accept that, but there had better be proof.

2.  If Snape is OFH, made a stupid decision to save his own skin on the
tower, and then regrets the dastardly deed later and does all he can to help
Harry and rid the WW of Voldemort, I can accept that, though not totally
forgive the murder.


Sherry, knowing this is an absolutely emotional argument, but still, even in
fiction I have no other answer.

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