Why DD did not ask Snape to kill him. (extremely long)
dumbledore11214
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Thu Mar 15 12:54:44 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 166113
> Dana:
> <BIG SNIP of cool staff Alla agrees with>
> You all make assumptions that DD considers Snape the key to
> Harry's victory while he isn't even able to help prevent the
> kid from being lured to the DoM (with or without alerting the
> Order), you make assumptions that Snape knows about the
> Horcruxes and DD gave him the task to find them or provide the
> necessary information for Harry, while Harry is trained the
> entire year to be able to locate them. And the inconvenience
> of not being able to give the information to anyone is not a
> problem? <SNIP>
Alla:
To not make it a complete me too, I just want to say that I
certainly do not make assumptions that Snape knows about horcruxes.
Now he **may** know about them, since he treated ( well or not -
different story) DD from the ring curse, but I certainly do not
think that it is a given that DD informed Snape of them. DD may have
just said - I was hit with nasty curse, help me Severus. IMO.
Dana:
> Just because Snape turned before GH and the death of the Potters
> doesn't mean LV hadn't already made his decision about which
> family he was going to take out. Snape having a lifedebt to
> James probably figured, he could get rid of it by providing
> DD with this information, save James and make the debt even,
> but the SK change caused a different outcome and, although not
> known to Snape, he still blames James for dying as a result of
> putting his trust in Sirius and messing up his chance to get
> rid of the debt *before* LV would find a way to get to Harry.
>
> So logically there is nothing that contradicts DD's claim to
> Harry about Snape regretting how LV interpreted the prophecy
> and DD thinking it was his reason to return to the side of
> good.
Alla:
Oh, my goodness. This is brilliant Dana, this also makes Harry story
to the members of the Order after the DD death to be **not**
inconsistent at all.
Dana:
> Snape had worked as a teacher for 14 years by Harry's fifth
> year making Harry about 1 year old when Snape started his job.
> GH happens when Harry is 1 year and 3 months. Although this
> can be read both ways, as an ESE, or as a Snape who truly
> defected to the other side. I do not for one minute believe
> that DD would lie to Harry. There might be more to it and he
> might have other reasons DD didn't mention but a lying DD to
> make a more plausible Snape as DDM is not plausible in my book
> and neither is putting others at risk by making Snape take a UV
> and ordering him to kill DD.
Alla:
DD omits information for plot purposes for sure. I certainly think
that "truth is a great and terrible thing" ( paraphrase) was not
meant to hint at lying manipulator DD, just the victim of plot
necessity DD, but it certainly IMO can be seen how DD often hides
the truth and by extension lies about it.
Even though I am with you.
Alla, who is thinking that this post was at least expanding some on
Dana's points, hopefully :)
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