LV's bigger plan (was:Fawkes possible absence)
Jen Reese
stevejjen at earthlink.net
Thu Mar 22 04:30:54 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 166346
Carol:
> Let's say, then, that it's no longer his sole or primary concern, as
> it was in OoP. We certainly don't see him making any effort to
> secure information on the prophecy in HBP, and we do see, all through the
> book, a plot to kill Dumbledore.
Jen: Harry typically doesn't know Voldemort's plans in the middle
of a book, and we are essentially at that point after HBP. In GOF,
not even Dumbledore knew what Voldemort's entire plan was until
Harry returned from the graveyard. In OOTP Dumbledore knew LV's
plan, but this was kept from Harry until the climactic moment.
So in HBP, why would we hear LV's entire plan up front and then merely
wait to see how it is fulfilled? More than that, what does the reader actually
find out in 'Spinner's End'? Only what Bella, Narcissa and Snape claim
to know and are willing to tell each other. I'm not saying the plot with
Draco wasn't real, only there's no guarantee the three of them are in
on everything in LV's mind. They aren't accurate historians either, since
none of them have a reason to fully trust the other. (Not to mention it's
never clear what Peter is doing there or if he is unknown quantity X in this
equation, that during all the drama taking place he wasn't back to
eavesdropping.)
Carol:
> LV knows that the Prophecy orb is broken. If he wants to get to Harry,
> as he surely does, he has to figure out some other way to do it. He doesn't
> actually need the Prophecy (we know that it wouldn't help him if he did); he just
> needs to get to Harry and deprive him of his wand.
<snip>
> Dana:
> We do not see him do that because he knows it will not be
> that simple and he wants to know the full information on the prophecy.
> He really, truly believes it will help him understand how to
> take out Harry.
Jen: After the defeat in the graveyard, Voldemort's next step was
going after the prophecy. He believed there was something in the prophecy
that he needed to know in order to understand how to defeat Harry. Still
without the prophecy at the end of OOTP, more bad news for LV--he can't
possess Harry, Harry has access to his thoughts and feelings.
Voldemort is basically taking a defensive posture with Harry, employing
Occlumency. Rather than forgetting the prophecy, he's likely *more*
obsessed now with discovering if there is any information in the second half
to explain why none of his powers are working against Harry. He doesn't
have the benefit of Dumbledore's explanations <g> and has no idea
what he is missing.
Jen R.
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