Details of the "Prank" (WAS Re: LV's bigger plan (was:Fawkes possible absence))
Zara
zgirnius at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 22 18:35:40 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 166358
> Carol responds:
> I agree that James wasn't really at risk. What I don't understand is
> *how* he saved Severus's life. He couldn't have cast any hexes or
> jinxes on Remus that Severus couldn't also have cast (he's the kid
who
> knew more curses at eleven that most seventh-years). And he
certainly
> couldn't have transformed into a stag and, say, carried Severus off
on
> his antlers, because, as you say, there wasn't room to transform and
> Severus would have informed Dumbledore. So exactly did he do that
> Severus couldn't have done himself? Did he just warn him that Remus
> was a werewolf and yell "Run?"
zgirnius:
Then we don't actually agree. I was presenting what I see as mutually
exclusive solutions to the problem. It is my opinoin that if James
could not transform, then he placed himself in the same danger as
Snape. (With the slight advantage that he would have known what to
expect, and could therefore forumlate a plan to deal with it in some
way. Snape would presumably have been responding to the danger with
no advance knowledge of its nature).
James's rescue could not consist merely of standing at the entrance
to the tunnel and yelling at Snape that Lupin is a werewolf. That is
not consistent with the evidence that we do have. The tunnel is quite
long, and Snape ventured deep into it, because he saw Lupin. If he
was far enough to see Lupin, he was too far to hear James from the
tunnel entrance (not to mention that the information James was
providing would no longer be of any use, thus meaning James did not,
in fact, save his life.) If he ignored James and proceeded, then
again James did not save his life, he saved his own (somehow).
We also have Lupin's claim that "but your father, who'd heard what
Sirius had done, went after Snape and pulled him back," which seems
to mean James went into the tunnel. The 'and pulled him back' is
particularly interesting. If Snape got far enough to see the
werewolf, it would seem that pulling him back would not have been
necessary. He ought to have seen the advisability of leaving for
himself.
There is Alla's murder theory, which would explain the pulling back,
but that also seems not to fit. If Snape was set and ready to kill
Lupin, James's action would have been saving Lupin's life, not
Snape's.
I think James did save Snape's life, because two characters whose
testimony about the incident I consider reliable confirm this fact.
Dumbledore, who often speaks for Rowling (as he does in this case, I
believe), and Snape himself. He does not dispute that James saved his
life, note. His negative comments about James's rescue have to do
with James's motives, not the lack of actual rescue.
Total speculation, but perhaps Snape suffered some injury which
prevented him from leaving rapidly under his own power? In that case
James 'pulling him back' would allow Snape to get out more quickly
(or, at all, depending on the nature of the injury).
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