LV's bigger plan (was:Fawkes possible absence)

[Dana]

No: HPFGUIDX 166415

> Hickengruendler:
>
> The problem, that I have with all "Trelawney got kidnapped"
theories is, that canon IMO suggests, that she *was* at the
funeral. Granted, she wasn't mentioned by name, but neither
was Madam Pomfrey, for example. Here is, what canon has to say.
"The staff were seated last" (p.598, UK edition). Not the staff
except Trelawney, but the staff.

> This, to me, suggests, that she was there. Not kidnapped,
not taking out of the castle by Dumbledore for reasons I still
don't understand (if he didn't expect to die this night, than
why did he want Trelawney to leave the castle anyway?), but at
the funeral.

Dana:
You might be right but it is strange though that at the sight
of her, Harry did not think about anything she said just before
the tower events. No thoughts about her being right. No thoughts
about DD's trust in Snape, while he was the one that brought
the prophecy to LV. Nothing, no thoughts at all.

Jen never stated DD made her leave but I was just thinking he
might have put Fawkes on alert that if there was any sign of
distress he has to take Trelawney out of the castle. And to me
it could be a reason why it took Fawkes so long before he
started singing over DD's death.

To DD, the content of the prophecy can still be used as a
weapon against Harry, as he suggests to Harry at the end of
OotP.

Pg 740 UKed Paperback:

"Particularly since your extraordinary escape from him last
year, he has been determined to hear that prophecy in its
entirety. This is the weapon he has been seeking so
assiduously since his return: the knowledge of how to
destroy you"

End quote from canon.

And for LV it would not be that difficult to plan taking her
on the same night Draco makes an attempt to kill DD. Even if
LV expected members of the Order to be there. Then his DEs
will cause the necessary diversion and DD will be busy with
Draco, so no one to watch out for her. Why would he wait till
DD was dead and have come back later?

Why not plan it at the same time? For this to work Draco never
has to succeed in killing DD. The only thing Draco has to
succeed in is to get the DEs into the castle and lure DD to
the right place and keep him busy long enough. It isn't even
necessary to include Snape in killing DD but it will help to
keep him busy at the same time.

Dana