LV's bigger plan (was:Fawkes possible absence)

Ceridwen ceridwennight at hotmail.com
Sat Mar 24 15:14:43 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 166416

Hickengruendler:
> > The problem, that I have with all "Trelawney got kidnapped" 
theories is, that canon IMO suggests, that she *was* at the funeral. 
Granted, she wasn't mentioned by name, but neither was Madam Pomfrey, 
for example. Here is, what canon has to say.  "The staff were seated 
last" (p.598, UK edition). Not the staff except Trelawney, but the 
staff.

Dana:
> You might be right but it is strange though that at the sight of 
her, Harry did not think about anything she said just before the 
tower events. No thoughts about her being right. No thoughts about 
DD's trust in Snape, while he was the one that brought the prophecy 
to LV. Nothing, no thoughts at all.

Ceridwen:
The thing for me is, Harry does notice the staff being seated.  Since 
his recent run-in with Trelawney, which, as you mention, was an 
important moment in Harry's life, I think he would have noticed her 
missing.

This was an important funeral.  The funeral of Hogwarts' headmaster, 
Trelawney's boss; the funeral of the former head of the Wizengamot 
and the (former?) head of the International Wizarding (Council?); the 
funeral of a headmaster murdered by one of the teachers.  Which of 
the staff would dare to stay away?

This was also the funeral of the man who saved Trelawney from being 
turned out of Hogwarts not much more than a year before.  It was her 
information that was at the front of Harry's mind when he and 
Dumbledore set out for the sea cave.  I think he would have noticed 
her missing.

And if he didn't, someone else within his hearing would have 
mentioned something.  I can't imagine McGonagall not saying something 
about Trelawney's ingratitude for everything Dumbledore has done for 
her, if she didn't attend.  In my opinion, the funeral would have 
been the perfect place to set up the Missing!Trelawney mystery for 
Deathly Hallows, but it wasn't set up.

I do love the idea.  I go back and forth between Voldemort making one 
last link with Harry at the end of OotP and hearing the entire 
prophecy that way, and his kidnapping of Trelawney in order to get 
that information.  But I lean more toward one last mind link between 
LV and Harry, simply because the attractive Missing!Trelawney subplot 
was not foreshadowed at the perfect opportunity for it to have been 
introduced.

Ceridwen.





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