LV's bigger plan / Trelawney at the funeral or not?

[Ceridwen]

No: HPFGUIDX 166422

Dana:
> Yes, someone else might have noticed but I can't see McGonagall 
discussing her contempt about Trelawney's absence with Harry, she
doesn't know about Trelawney's encounter with Harry or that it would 
be of any importance to Harry at all or even if it would be any of 
his concern. Harry himself does not get time to discuss it with 
anyone after the service as the MoM zeroes in on him and he has just 
broken up with Ginny. Ron and Hermione also are distracted by other 
things like making sure Harry does not cut them out of the loop. So, 
the moment for actively registering Trelawney was missing passed very 
quickly.

Ceridwen:
I wasn't too clear in what I meant.  Sorry!  Of course McGonagall 
wouldn't discuss one of the teachers with Harry, even though she 
invites him for the big meeting in her office later.  I was imagining 
that Harry would be near her while she was talking to another 
teacher, or perhaps an Order member - say Flitwick or Molly Weasley - 
and overhear her talking about the "ungrateful Trelawney".  
Dumbledore came to Trelawney's rescue the year before, allowing her 
to stay in the castle when Umbridge was going to throw her out.  I 
can see McGonagall being outraged at Trelawney's absence after that, 
and complaining to someone.

If the scene was necessary for setting up the Missing!Trelawney 
scenario for the next book, JKR would have made it happen.  After 
Harry breaks up with Ginny, he might wander past McGonagall as she's 
talking about it; or after he leaves Scrimgeour, he might happen to 
overhear her discussing it with Hagrid.  Harry wouldn't even have to 
register it as anything more than talk, only realizing later, in DH, 
what it means.  But the idea would be planted in the reader's mind, 
ready to be recognized in Deathly Hallows.

Dana:
> *(snip)*  Just a thought of course but I still hope DD thwarted LV 
because thinking about what LV would do to Trelawney to retrieve the 
memory is such a horrible thought but I would not put it pass JKR to 
put it in.

Ceridwen:
I snipped way down because I agree with you that, whether or not LV 
now knows the entire prophecy, the steps he's already taken have 
negated anything he might have done to mitigate it.  He's already 
made too many mistakes.

I also agree that if LV got his hands on Trelawney, she would be in 
for a very bad time.  Look at what he did to Bertha Jorkins.  IF 
there was a plot, I also hope that DD foiled it in the end.  Maybe DD 
did foil the plot, so she was at the funeral after all.  ;)

Ceridwen.