LV's bigger plan / Trelawney at the funeral or not?

[hickengruendler]

No: HPFGUIDX 166429

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> 
wrote:
 
> Other staff members besides Trelawney are not named but are 
presumably
> included in "the staff." Does ghost Binns attend? Perhaps not. But
> what about Sprout and Flitwick? Surely, they were present, but 
they're
> not mentioned. The only staff members specifically mentioned, IIRC,
> are McGonagall, Hagrid, Madam Pince, and Filch.

Hickengruendler:

Just some minor points, because I agree with your overall point. 
Sprout was mentioned. I am sure Harry described her as looking as 
clean as he never saw her before, or something like this. Also, it 
was mentioned that all the ghosts were there, therefore probably 
including Binns.
 
> > 
> > Ceridwen:
> <snip> In my opinion, the funeral would have been the perfect place 
to
> set up the Missing!Trelawney mystery for Deathly Hallows, but it
> wasn't set up.
> 
> Carol:
> Exactly. After all, we've been informed of the disappearance of the
> seemingly inconsequential Florian Fortescue and of Ollivander. I
> expect a follow-up on those mysteries (and perhaps on the Vance and
> Bones murders). And Harry is (I hope) going to figure out eventually
> that the barkeeper at the Hog's Head, whom he sees at the funeral, 
is
> the mysterious Order member, Aberforth Dumbledore. But there's no
> reference to Trelawney, not a hint that she's missing. "The staff"
> (minus Snape) are all present, or even Harry would have noticed.
> 
> > Dana:
> > Well I do believe [the missing Trelawney subplot] was foreshadowed
> when Umbridge tried to remove Trelawney from Hogwarts the previous
> year and DD stepped in to prevent it, JKR makes a big scene out of 
it.
> Also Harry even meeting her that night foreshadows the prophecy 
still
> has an active role to play. <snip>

Hickengruendler:

Sure, there is no doubt, that Voldemort might try to get his hands on 
Trelawney to get the Prophecy. And Harry knows this. So I really 
suppose Harry would have noticed it at some point, if the person 
Dumbledore tried to protect was suddenly misisng. Besides, McGonagall 
*knew* that Dumbledore tried to protect Trelawney. She was the first 
one to comfort Sybill, telling her that she would not have to leave 
Hogwarts. She is an Order member and the Order tried to protect the 
prophecy. They knew a prophecy existed and they probably knew it was 
done by Trelawney. Therefore someone would have noticed her missing! 
Therefore the scene in OotP makes it even less likely, that the 
Trelawney could just have been missing like that, since McGonagall 
knew Albus wanted to keep her in Hogwarts and would therefore try 
everything to search her, if she were missing. Or at least we would 
have seen her looking worried.