DH info on the Marauders and Snape was Nitwit Remus John Lupin

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wynnleaf:
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> Another comment that applies to several arguments of Dana's and 
> Alla's.  There is an idea that we're going to learn some new 
> information in DH that shows how bad Snape was as a student -- 
> something that will show how culpable he was during that time that 
> those much maligned Marauders (huh?) were getting detentions right 
> and left, chasing around the countryside endangering the 
community, 
> and bullying people.  
> <SNIP>

Alla:

Yes, this idea comes first and foremost from JKR's quote about us 
learning more about the reasons of the hatred between Snape and 
Sirius.

wynnleaf:
> There's two problems with this.
> 
> 1.  JKR is not writing, nor going to write, "The Exhaustive 
History 
> of the Marauders and Snape" which covers their day-to-day 
activities 
> throughout school.  So whatever she actually puts down on the 
page, 
> that's all we'll have to go by.  No amount of suppositions ("Snape 
> could have been hexing people constantly.  Just because we're not 
> told doesn't mean he wasn't," is no argument at all once the 7th 
> book is published.  It's hardly any argument now.  Because all we 
> have to go on is what we're told.  And if we're given no evidence 
or 
> hint of a thing, we can't just suppose it to be true.

Alla:

Neri replied to that beatifully, but I just want to say what I said 
earlier. We **are** IMO learning more and more bad things about 
Snape with every book. Sure, they come in small doses, but I believe 
it is quite fair to think that even more of the bad things could be 
expected in book 7.

I mean, really who could have expected that Snape created the curse 
that makes people bleed to death and I know for sure I had no clue 
that Snape was getting turned in the air by his **own** curse. I 
read the scene in OOP as ugly bullying for sure and I **love** 
Marauders dearly and hate Snape with passion. 

What I did not buy ever is that scene reflected true picture of 
their relationship and boy, what did I see in HBP?

*I** saw at the very least a hint that Snape may have been not the 
victim of the bullies, but getting his just deserts. The fact that 
Snape was hit with his **own** curse may mean nothing to you, but to 
me it may be highly symbolic of universe hitting back Snape for all 
the deeds he did, which readers are not aware of yet. I may be wrong 
of course, but I do not believe that I am being unreasonable in 
expecting to learn more bad things in DH.


 
Wynnleaf:
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> The books thus far have been primarily seen through Harry's point 
of 
> view.  Through Harry, Snape is seen as really mean, nasty, and now 
> the evil traitor.  Therefore any surprise twists for Snape will 
only 
> counter this picture, not support it.  Otherwise, they aren't 
> surprise twists.  
><SNIP>


Alla:

Eh, are all surprises that Harry will learn just have to be about 
Snape? I think that if Harry will learn that his father was not just 
as bad as he believed after Pensieve scene, it could be quite 
surprising for Harry. JMO. 
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