Snape as Neville's teacher
dumbledore11214
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Sun May 6 21:44:20 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 168385
> Magpie:
<SNIP>
The fact that the things grown in
> Herbology make up some of the
> ingredients doesn't relate the two subject that I can see.
Alla:
Well, then it is agree to disagree time :) I am certainly not saying
that subjects are identical or even very close, but I **am** saying
that they are at least related to the degree where Neville should
not have been **that** scared of it, familiarity and all, but for
the teacher. IMO of course.
> Magpie:
<SNIP>
I get the
> impression JKR is showing Neville's strong and weak points with
these
> subjects--Herbology is connected to his patience and kind nature;
Potions is
> about tests of precise skill of the type he's bad at.
Alla:
I get the impression that JKR is showing with which type of teachers
Neville does well and with which he does not. Charmes do not seem to
me to be connected very much to his patience and kind nature either
and he still does very well.
Alla:
<SNIP>
> >
> > Many people think that it will be Herbology he will be teaching.
I
> > will bet you now that he will be teaching potions and maybe JKR
even
> > mention how different his lessons were from the ones that greasy
> > bastard was teaching, hehe. Or at least I would love that to
happen
> > very much. Heeeee, with Snape doing community service and
servicing
> > as Neville's assistant. MAHAHAHAHHAHA.
>
> Magpie:
> If I were a parent of a kid at Hogwarts, I'd be pretty angry at
that
> outcome. I know the old saying of "those who can't do, teach," but
Neville
> does not fit into that example in canon, imo. The reason people
who weren't
> naturals at a subject make good teachers for beginners is that
they often
> understand the problems they have and so can explain how they
overcame them.
> Neville doesn't seem to have reached that level. He's bad at
Potions, but he
> doesn't seem to have grasped why in a practical way. He might be
more
> patient with kids getting things wrong, but he doesn't seem like
he'd be
> much help to them beyond that. <SNIP>
Alla:
Well, I was not very clear that this little speculation would only
make sense to me if JKR would want to show how badly Snape misjudged
Neville's ability, which was clouded by fear, but was always there.
If Neville is really that bad at Potions, which I am still not sure
about, then obviously it makes no sense.
But the fact that even Harry notices at Potions OWL that Neville
performs much better when Snape is not there, makes me think that he
**at least** not that bad.
And of course Snape's humiliation is something I always want to see -
as nice payback for what he put Neville through.
But again, let me be clear, while I think it is a possibility that
Neville will be teaching potions ( herbology is also a possibility
obviously), I do not think that we will see Snape as teaching
assistant, this part is just my wish.
> Magpie:
<SNIP>
> But Neville still seems to unfortunately draws attention to
himself on the
> first day by making a mistake with violent results. That's a
problem Neville
> has, is that his mistakes are often that type, probably because of
his
> nervousness. He throws Flitwick across the room, for instance, and
explodes
> things. <SNIP>
Alla:
Yeah, and isn't that very telling that despite Neville doing it not
only in Potions but in Charms as well, he gets a **very** good grade
in Professor Flitwick clase and gets traumatised by Snape to such
extent that Snape becomes his boggart. I think it speaks volumes of
who is the better teacher for Neville.
JMO,
Alla
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