The link and Voldemort's Legilimency (WAS Re: Snape as Neville's ...)

[Dana]

No: HPFGUIDX 168605

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Dana" <ida3 at ...> wrote:
>
> zgirnius:
> > As a purely technical point about the link and Voldemort's 
> > Legilimency, I disagree. I'd say several points of canon indicate 
> > Harry can see Voldemort's thoughts - he experiences the attack on 
> > Arthur Weasley as the snake, while Voldemort is possessing the 
> > snake, and also he sees the conversation between Voldemort and 
> > Rookwood. It seems to me that Voldemort, who is the acknowledged 
> > expert at Legilimency, should be able to manage as much.
> <snip>
> 
> Dana before:
> Yes, there is canon that Harry can see through LV's eyes but there 
> is no canon indication that LV is witnessing Harry's thoughts and 
> conversation besides the one time he feels the snake rise inside of 
> him when he looks at DD. Harry specifically feels LV's presents 
> when he does that, so there is no indication LV has done that 
> besides that one time.  

Dana again: 

I want to add one more thing LV after planting the vision has every 
reason to block out the link because if Harry would have open access 
to the link then it would risk the entire operation and therefore LV 
could not have intruded on Harry's mind during the time Harry 
believes he is busy with tormenting Sirius because it would either 
alert Harry LV is done with Sirius or that the vision is indeed fake 
and if Snape has no way of knowing (which I do not believe) when 
Harry went to the DoM then neither does LV. And this too is an 
indication LV is notified on what is happening because he had no 
other way of knowing. Snape are his ear and eyes at Hogwarts and I do 
not believe Snape has the courage to disobey a direct order from LV. 

I also find it interesting that LV says his DE's let themself be 
thwarted by Harry and not by the Order while if he did not know how 
long Harry was there, the Order could have shown up 10 minutes after 
Harry did and it would have been the Order that thwarted his plan but 
he specifically states that it was Harry's doing. Meaning to me that 
he knew perfectly well how long his DEs had been dealing with Harry 
before the Order showed up. And to me this indicates that someone 
told him and the only one that could have done so is Snape. 

I'm even willing to go one step further and state that the whole deal 
with Harry witnessing Rookwood telling LV about the protection was a 
set up as well, to make it possible for Snape to clear the way by 
cancelling out the need for Order patrols at the DoM without 
revealing he knew more about it as now he could tell DD he saw it 
through Harry. Why? Because I can't understand why LV would not 
understand what happened to Bode, that made him end up at St. Mungo's 
and we know they are aware he ended up there as they send him 
flowers ;o). And yes, if it is then Snape would actually be LV's man 
and not just out for himself. (Sure speculation, speculation but 
isn't it what makes reading the Potter books so much fun?)

LV knows more about magic then any other wizard even DD so why would 
he not understand the moment he sees the effect it had on Bode that 
no one could get it but him or Harry, that it was magically 
protected? And if he did already know then either the revelation of 
Snape teaching Harry occlumency or even Narcissa telling LV about a 
way to lure out Harry would make sense while as it stands now, 
Rookwood tells LV after these things are suppossed to have been told 
to LV. It doesn't fit. 

And in case you wondering why Harry felt no pain when he is face to 
face with LV in the DoM, well simple because LV blocks the link just 
like Harry was suppossed to learn through occlumency from the great 
noble teacher Snape and his very moral teaching methods that are 
working so well for Harry. (Sorry could not resist) 

JMHO

Dana