On Moral Compasses (was:Re: Snape as Neville's teacher...)
horridporrid03
horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Sat May 12 17:03:17 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 168607
> >>Dana:
> <snip>
> I wouldn't even be surprised that he treats Hermione bad because
> she is a muggleborn, because essentially Hermione is the same kind
> of student Snape was (but with a moral compass working properly
> while that of Snape has always pointed in all direction but the
> right one), she wants to be the best in everything she does and so
> does Snape.
> <snip>
Betsy Hp:
I have three issues with the above statement. Two are kind of
smallish. (1) Snape hasn't been shown to target muggleborns, and in
fact has more one on one intereaction with the pureblooded Neville.
(2) We don't see Young!Snape in a classroom setting, but I'm betting
he wasn't at the edge of his seat, hand in the air, begging to be
called on. I see him more as sitting in the back, scribbling notes
that may or may not be related to the class going on around him
depending on expertise (in Young!Snape's mind) of the teacher.
The third one is a bit bigger, I think. (3) I'm not all that
enamored of Hermione's moral compass. In fact, I'm a bit worried
it's broken, or maybe just incorrectly (or not fully?) installed.
A caveat: I strongly dislike Hermione as of HBP. In fact, she
actually repulses me. I'm not rereading the series until *after* DH
with the hope she gets some sense shaken into her and I can reread
her younger years with a lighter and more forgiving heart. So
understand there may be some slight, erm, bias in my reading of
things. <g>
Now, obviously Young!Snape joining the Death Eaters (and I do believe
he joined them willingingly, not as Dumbledore's sleeper) shows a
moral bump in Snape's principles. And obviously, Hermione hasn't
chosen anything so outwardly wrong. But then again, she's not been
given a choice has she?
I mean, Hermione is muggleborn. She's *never* going to be recruited
by the series baddies. Plus, all of her friends actively work
*against* the Death Eaters. So is it fair to compare Snape joining
the Death Eaters to Hermione not joining them? I don't think it is.
But does Hermione show a level of unforgiving ruthlessness and
elitism to suggest that if she could have she may well have joined
the Death Eaters? I think so.
Hermione is *all over* the Slugclub. Does it bother her that Ron
isn't included in this club? Not that I've seen. Hermione's a tad
bit uncomfortable discussing said club in front of Ron but not so
uncomfortable she doesn't *go*. And Hermione actively supports
Slughorn's efforts to recruit Harry into the Slugclub, but doesn't
seem to try and get Ron included. Which suggests to me that, when
she's in the in, Hermione is perfectly comfortable with exclusions.
Even if some pretty decent people (I'm assuming Hermione thinks Ron
is decent) are excluded.
Hermione's reactions to house elves have been discussed a great deal
on this list. And while I would give her a bit of credit for
correctly identifying something not quite right in the WW, Hermione's
weirdly stubborn refusal to *talk* with the House Elves and get their
take on things is bothersome, IMO. Taken with her comfort in calling
Firenze a horse (a rather ugly slur as per Centaur's we have met) it
suggests a certain elitism on Hermione's part.
And then there is Marietta. It really *really* bothers me that
Hermione is so *not* bothered by Marietta's continuing mark. There's
a callous disregard of other people *as* people being expressed here,
IMO. I honestly get the sense that Hermione sees the world as those
that are real people (a *very* small and exclusive group that I'm not
sure include her parents) and those that just do not count. And this
sort of brutal ruthlessness is very like the Death Eaters. Perhaps a
bit more subtle than their usual MO, but even more cruel in its
subtleness.
Of course, we don't get to see inside Hermione's head. Perhaps she's
shocked that Marietta's mark still hasn't gone away and is either
defensively ignoring it or secretly working on a cure. But based on
what we have seen, I would not credit Hermione with a strong sense of
morals. I'd rather look to the current Professor Snape, who's faced
his demons (IMO) and come out the other side, than Hermione "sees
what she wants to see" Granger for answers to any sort of moral
dilemma.
So yeah, when it comes to moral compasses, I think Snape's is better.
<g>
Betsy Hp
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