Why did JKR not explore H/Hr as canon?
hickengruendler
hickengruendler at yahoo.de
Tue May 15 08:25:34 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 168748
Ken:
> No, she doesn't show it and I guess that is the problem for those
of
> you who hate the "new" Ginny. She doesn't show it *because Harry
> doesn't notice it*. It is there, very subtly, all along. I think
that
> Ginny is *both* starstruck and genuinely attracted to Harry from
the
> beginning. Ginny is acting her age in the beginning, the starstruck
> quality drops away, realistically so, but the attraction remains
even
> when she distracts herself with other boys. *We* don't see that
last
> bit because *Harry* doesn't notice. Harry doesn't seem to really
> notice girls at all until page 388 of GOF (US pb ed); when he
needs to
> get a date for the Yule Ball. Ginny explains the evolution of her
> feelings for Harry in HBP. Some of you don't accept that but I
find it
> far less jarring than Hermione's revelation of the time turner in
PoA.
> In both cases there are plenty of clues. The time turner clues were
> heavy handed because we had no way to tell what they meant. The
Ginny
> clues are much more subtle.
Hickengruendler:
I can't say I found the revelation regarding the Time-Turner
particularly jarring, because I thought earlier, that if Hermione is
in two places at the same time, she either must have found a way to
magically duplicate herself or she must time-travel. And the later
just seemed much more likely to me. A mystery was given to us in the
beginning of the book ("Why is Hermione in several classes at the
same time?") and the answer was given in the end as well. That said,
I would argue, that it should be secondary, whether one finds the
time-travel reveal secondary, at least in regards to Ginny. The Time-
Turning in PoA was a plot device/surprise, which can be sprung on
his with a few hints, but Ginny is a character, who should undergo a
semily logical development. And I don't think she did. IMO, JKR
wrote pretty much two different characters (three, if you count
nasty Ginny in HBP yet as another different character from Ginny in
OotP), who happened to share the same name. I know the argument with
the Harry filter and the crush etc., but it simply doesn't convince
me, because Harry filter or not, I, as a reader see hardly any
similarities between Ginny in the first four books and Ginny in book
5 and 6 (and seven, I assume).
Actually, I think the real reason is, that Jo had some ideas, how
Harry's ideal girl should be and was giving Ginny fron OotP onwards
this very charasteristics. "Harry's ideal girl" she called it, and
that's what Ginny starting with OotP IMO really is, a summary of
abilities that happen to fulfill Harry's needs, but really not a
character on her own with a relatic history and development.
And with reagrds to the Harry/Ginny ship, I have a question. While I
can see (even though I dislike her as a character), how Ginny is
good for Harry, I would like to know, in which way Canon suggests,
that Harry is good for Ginny. If Ginny is more than just a summary
of characteristics, we should know what she needs in her boyfriend
and how much Harry fulfills these needs. This is not meant sarcastic
but an honestly meant question, I would like to be proven wrong and
that people could explain me, which kind of personality Ginny really
has and why Harry actually is compatbile with her.
In many ways, I thought the big kiss scene in Gryffindor Tower is
symbolical for these pairing, since in this scene the narrator tells
us about the reaction of about every person who is there, except,
you know, Ginny. Are we meant to see it as a matter of fact at this
point, that she was still in love with Harry, because of the Crush
back in book 2?
Hickengruendler, who always predicted Harry/Ginny and points to his
HBP prediction post as a proof, but did not expect to hate it that
much
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