Why did JKR not explore H/Hr as canon?

hickengruendler hickengruendler at yahoo.de
Tue May 15 08:25:34 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 168748

Ken:
 
> No, she doesn't show it and I guess that is the problem for those 
of
> you who hate the "new" Ginny. She doesn't show it *because Harry
> doesn't notice it*. It is there, very subtly, all along. I think 
that
> Ginny is *both* starstruck and genuinely attracted to Harry from 
the
> beginning. Ginny is acting her age in the beginning, the starstruck
> quality drops away, realistically so, but the attraction remains 
even
> when she distracts herself with other boys. *We* don't see that 
last
> bit because *Harry* doesn't notice. Harry doesn't seem to really
> notice girls at all until page 388 of GOF (US pb ed); when he 
needs to
> get a date for the Yule Ball. Ginny explains the evolution of her
> feelings for Harry in HBP. Some of you don't accept that but I 
find it
> far less jarring than Hermione's revelation of the time turner in 
PoA.
> In both cases there are plenty of clues. The time turner clues were
> heavy handed because we had no way to tell what they meant. The 
Ginny
> clues are much more subtle.

Hickengruendler:

I can't say I found the revelation regarding the Time-Turner 
particularly jarring, because I thought earlier, that if Hermione is 
in two places at the same time, she either must have found a way to 
magically duplicate herself or she must time-travel. And the later 
just seemed much more likely to me. A mystery was given to us in the 
beginning of the book ("Why is Hermione in several classes at the 
same time?") and the answer was given in the end as well. That said, 
I would argue, that it should be secondary, whether one finds the 
time-travel reveal secondary, at least in regards to Ginny. The Time-
Turning in PoA was a plot device/surprise, which can be sprung on 
his with a few hints, but Ginny is a character, who should undergo a 
semily logical development. And I don't think she did. IMO, JKR 
wrote pretty much two different characters (three, if you count 
nasty Ginny in HBP yet as another different character from Ginny in 
OotP), who happened to share the same name. I know the argument with 
the Harry filter and the crush etc., but it simply doesn't convince 
me, because Harry filter or not, I, as a reader see hardly any 
similarities between Ginny in the first four books and Ginny in book 
5 and 6 (and seven, I assume).  

Actually, I think the real reason is, that Jo had some ideas, how 
Harry's ideal girl should be and was giving Ginny fron OotP onwards 
this very charasteristics. "Harry's ideal girl" she called it, and 
that's what Ginny starting with OotP IMO really is, a summary of 
abilities that happen to fulfill Harry's needs, but really not a 
character on her own with a relatic history and development.

And with reagrds to the Harry/Ginny ship, I have a question. While I 
can see (even though I dislike her as a character), how Ginny is 
good for Harry, I would like to know, in which way Canon suggests, 
that Harry is good for Ginny. If Ginny is more than just a summary 
of characteristics, we should know what she needs in her boyfriend 
and how much Harry fulfills these needs. This is not meant sarcastic 
but an honestly meant question, I would like to be proven wrong and 
that people could explain me, which kind of personality Ginny really 
has and why Harry actually is compatbile with her.

In many ways, I thought the big kiss scene in Gryffindor Tower is 
symbolical for these pairing, since in this scene the narrator tells 
us about the reaction of about every person who is there, except, 
you know, Ginny. Are we meant to see it as a matter of fact at this 
point, that she was still in love with Harry, because of the Crush 
back in book 2?

Hickengruendler, who always predicted Harry/Ginny and points to his 
HBP prediction post as a proof, but did not expect to hate it that 
much
 





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