On the perfection of moral virtues/Snape and some Ron as well

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 168864

> Alla:
> 
> Okay then. Seriously though, I thought we were talking about **big** 
> stuff, something like Harry **may** consider forgiven Snape for.
> 
> Do I think that there is anything even close in Harry's life now 
> that he needs to be forgiven for from anybody?

<snip>
> Your original analogy was though that just as Snape needs to be 
> forgiven, Harry does, was it not?
<snip>> 
> So, I see Harry having quite a few flaws, while being rather decent 
> kid all together, but do I think that his flaws arise anywhere near 
> to Snape's flaws?
> 
> 
> Not, not for me, not even close, because I see Snape right now as 
> child abuser, traitor and murderer. I sincerely doubt that Harry 
> will ever be any such thing, even if he kills Voldemort in his 
> sleep, which I doubt he will.


Pippin:
But that's ESE!Snape, and nobody is suggesting that ESE!Snape
could be Harry's moral equal without some serious repentance,
though I suppose he could be Harry's moral equal if that happened. 
"Though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow."

But I'm talking about DDM!Snape of course.

Snape carrying the prophecy to Voldemort is big stuff but
I have an idea that it's been  balanced out by Harry's false
accusation of murder. I can just see Harry pursuing  Snape
for half of DH, and then, just about the time Harry realizes
that Snape must be innocent, the Ministry will re-authorize
the use of the Unforgivables against suspects.  If Harry 
tells  them Snape is innocent, Snape will be killed by 
Voldemort. But if he doesn't, Snape will be killed by Aurors --
and if Harry does save Snape, Snape will hate him worse 
than ever, just like he hated James... Ooh, I could hardly
wait to see how that comes out!

But then  we come to the parting of the ways, because for
me, the classroom insults *are* small stuff and Rowling 
treats it that way, IMO.  Snape being a meanie is *nothing*
compared to the Slytherins, some of whom were seventh 
years and adults, all jeering at Ron for a whole year and 
calling him the WW equivalent of poor white trash.

Rowling's solution was not to hex the Slytherins or get them 
to beg forgiveness but to let  Ron learn that his nerves didn't 
come from Slytherin jeering, they came from his own
fears telling him that he was pathetic and he'd never
be good enough. 

Harry needs to learn that same lesson, IMO: his potions 
failures didn't come from Snape sneering at him, they came 
from Harry comparing himself to others and thinking, "I'm not
as good as you." The HBP's book was Harry's phony Felix
potion. Though the recipes were superior, the actual 
mechanics of potionmaking, stir this, then add that,  
were just the same as in Snape's class, and that's 
the stuff Harry used to screw up on.

Pippin