On the perfection of moral virtues/Snape and Harry and some Ron as well

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 168931


> Alla:
> 
> Not necessarily - even if Snape is revealed as not traitor and not 
> murderer ( hopefully not), he will still forever remain child abuser 
> for me, so I am talking about that Snape as well.
> 

Pippin:

In Book Seven Harry will be an adult and Dudley will be a child.
Now why do you think JKR arranged things that way? I hope
that Harry will prove too noble to  abuse his power over
Dudley in the next book, but I wouldn't bet on it. 

> Alla:
> 
> We are totally parting the ways, because no matter how bad was 
> Slytherins insults to Ron, what Snape did is the abuse of power to 
> someone who has no such power. IMO of course.

Pippin:
What power do you think Snape has that the Slytherins do not?
Harry insults Draco, Draco breaks his nose. Harry insults
Snape, Harry gets detention. There's consequences either way.

Harry can't give Snape detention or take points, but that's not
what Harry wants to do to Snape, is it? He wants to kill Snape
or grind him to powder, and there's not the slightest canon,
even in Spinner's End, that Snape wants to do anything like that 
to Harry at all. He does tell Umbridge that he could sympathize
with her desire to poison him, but even Harry doesn't take
that seriously.

> Alla:
> 
> And still Harry specifically notes in OOP that he performed better 
> when Snape was not in the room. It is my opinion that Snape 
> contributed hugely to his potion failures, but we shall see how this 
> will play out of course.

Pippin:
In Snape's presence Harry gets nervous about his inadequacies,
but Snape can't *make* Harry think he's inadequate, any more
than the Gryffindor grumbling could make Ron miss his saves. 
If it was Snape, then Snape should have ruined Harry's performance
in DADA too. But Snape doesn't have any effect, beyond being
annoying.

Snape is very good at getting Harry to focus on his self-doubts
and inadequacies. But Voldemort is even better. Since Harry
will never be good enough at occlumency to tune those feelings
out, he's just going to have to learn to love himself as he is.
::sigh:: 

> Alla:
. I would feel that I have no  right to be angry at this child for 
anything, if I feel true remorse  that is.

Pippin:
But what if you saw the child growing  into a bully, even a murderer, 
would you let that happen rather than discipline him? You'd salve 
your own feelings at the cost of his future?

Surely not.

Pippin