GoF fight between Harry and Ron/On perfection of moral virtues

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Fri May 18 16:15:19 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 168933

> Pippin:
> 
> "Listen," said Harry. "I didn't put my name in that goblet. Someone
> else must've done it."
> 
> Ron raised his eyebrows.
> 
> "What would they do that for?"
> "I dunno," said Harry. He felt it would sound very melodramatic
> to say, "To kill me."
> --GoF ch 17
> 
> Harry thinks he *does* know. He says he doesn't. He's not
> hiding the truth from a curious stranger, he's hiding it from 
> his best friend, and not even giving him a reason for it. <SNIP>

Alla:

And I disagree that Harry thinks he **does** know. I believe that 
based on the quote I brought Harry is **not** sure at all. So, no I 
do not think he is **hiding the truth** from Ron. I believe he is 
not giving him all information he has, but I do not think he is sure 
that this is the truth.


Pippin:  
> But if Harry thought Ron didn't need to  know why someone
> had put Harry's name in the goblet or that knowing this would
> endanger Ron, then he should've been happy that Ron got
> the wrong end of the stick. But he wasn't. He  withheld
> his faith from Ron and still expected Ron to have faith in him.
> That wasn't fair.

Alla:

IMO Harry had faith in Ron and Ron did not rise up to it at that 
moment anyways. I believe that Harry was not sure that Moody is 
right and indeed afraid to sound melodramatic.

I do not believe that to have faith in Harry Ron needed to hear 
that  somebody is trying to kill him.

Harry honestly told him that he did not do it. I know I said it 
upthread, and I am sorry for being a parrot but to me this should be 
enough.

But come to think of it, Harry indeed learned to share all 
information he has in HBP, did he not?

Do Rom and Hermione believe him? They just blow him off IMO. So, not 
the last time, I guess.

I did think that it was another sacrifice of the character writing 
to the plot necessities, since I thought Ron and Hermione should 
have believed Harry right away. About Malfoy of all people, whom 
they are always suspiciuous about, but this is here on the page.

I found it to be very dissapointing.

JMO,

Alla





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