Snape's involvement in the murder of Sirius

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 169146

 Goddlefrood:
> 
> Agreeing with Carol on this point and having presented another 
> perfectly valid interpretation of canon. Also saying that Snape,
> while possibly lying, but as a surface reading of canon would 
> support, took credit upon himself for aiding in getting rid of 
> Sirius.
>
Carol responds:

The only problem is, there is no such plot in canon. The only plot is
to get Harry to the MoM using a fake Sirius (a phony vision) as a
decoy. Snape not only told Black *on page* that Malfoy had seen him at
Platform 9 3/4 and that therefore the Death Eaters (and by extension
Voldemort) knew of his Animagus form (which, in any case, had nothing
to do with his death), but, according to Kreacher (DD's source of
information) told Sirius Black to stay home and wait for Dumbledore.
Kreacher would not have been waiting for DD, nor would he have talked
to him, had he not been ordered to do so.

1) There is no plot in canon to kill Sirius Black, only to get *Harry*
to the MoM.

2) There is no reason to kill Black, who is stuck in 12 GP and no
threat to the DEs or Voldemort.

3) Snape canonically did everything he could to keep Black from coming
to the MoM (it was Black's own decision to come). Yes, it's DD telling
Harry, but DD's source is Kreacher, who has no reason to lie on this
point, nor does he seem to have been able to lie at all to DD.

4) There was no guarantee that Black would be killed if he did come.
Had he not been fighting recklessly on the dais in front of the Veil,
he could not have been sent through it.

5) Snape certainly gave *some* information regarding Black, probably
that he had seen him in Animagus form at Hogwarts just before his
return, and he no doubt used that bit of information to claim a share
in Black's death, but it really made no contribution to Black's death
at all.

Carol, who is presenting canon here but assumes that Goddlefrood knows
the book well enough not to need page numbers for these points