Responses to Marietta

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No: HPFGUIDX 169328

> Carol responds:
> <HUGE SNIP>
> Ah, the heart of the matter. Hermione's hex *didn't* deter Marietta 
or
> anyone else from reporting the group to Umbridge (though it might 
have
> done so if she'd told them about it!) All it did was reveal the
> traitor after the fact--and punish her long after the action was
> committed. If she were going to punish and humiliate her for a week 
or
> so, fine, perhaps, though the usual ostracism for snitches would 
have
> served the purpose equally well. But it didn't "neutralize the
> traitor." It only silenced her after the fact. (Shacklebolt's Memory
> Charm silenced her permanently.)
> 
> Your second paragraph sums it up beautifully: Hermione should have
> cast a hex that wouldn't let a traitor open his or her mouth. *That*
> would have been a deterrent, not a punishment--more effective and a
> lot less cruel.
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Alla:

Yep, she should have done that in my view , but my point is that the 
fact that she did not do that does not make her bad strategist, just 
not the ideal one in my opinion.  And that has nothing to do with 
desire to 
diminish good side mistakes either actually ( in general reply). It 
has everything to do with me thinking that while Hermione's planning 
could have been better, it was not that bad. Actually, I will quote 
Lanval here:


Lanval:
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> And you bring up the exact point why it was so important for the 
hex 
> to manifest itself. Umbridge acted without hesitating, which was 
bad 
> news for the DA. Had she however waited, then every member of the 
DA 
> would have known by the sight of Marietta's face that they had been 
> betrayed, and who it was. Not only would they have refrained from 
> assembling, they would have been spared the agonizing ordeal of 
> suspecting each other. (Peter? Sirius? Remus? does that ring a 
bell? 
> It did for Hermione, I'm sure. ).
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Alla:

While I think that casting hex that would not have let traitor open 
her mouth would have been the **ideal** solution, which Hermione did 
not come up with, I think that the underlying reason that lanval 
describes is **also** admirable and makes her a good enough 
strategist and would have let everybody know who is the traitor and 
nothing lilke long collaboration with Umbridge would have been 
possible.

JMO of course,

Alla, who is so happy to see Lanval back :)