Marietta

[lupinlore]

No: HPFGUIDX 169530

> eggplant107:
> > If Marietta had not betrayed them Dumbledore would not have been
not
> > have been forced to leave Hogwarts, and if Dumbledore was still
there
> > Voldemort could never have fooled Harry into going to the Ministry.

random832:
> I find both of these assertions just a little hollow. Umbridge would
> have found another way to force DD out, eventually, and I don't see
any
> indication that Harry would have gone to him with this regardless.
> --


Would Umbridge have forced DD out regardless?  Being a counterfactual,
that's impossible to prove one way or another, but I don't think it
really has anything to do with Marietta's guilt for her role in
forcing DD out.  Everyone will die someday, but that doesn't make
murder okay -- even if the death is relatively imminent (which is one
reason I don't think the "DD was dieing anyway" defense of Snape holds
any moral water, sorry).

Now, the second part of the assertion, that Harry probably would not
have gone to DD, is something I go along with.  It is, of course, DD's
fault, however, it is not Marietta's.  Having said that, once again I
don't think that lessens Marietta's guilt for her role in forcing DD
to leave.

Lupinlore