JKR's intent

revaunchanistx coyandbecky at yahoo.com
Sat Nov 3 19:52:46 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 178810

> > >>Del comments:
> > I still remember the horrifying moment when I first read about
Harry
> > entering the RoR for the first time in DH, and noticing that
there
> > is no Slytherin banner in it. My mind reeled with disbelief
and
> > shock at that time: this was just so WRONG!
> > <snip>
>

revaunchanistx:
 If we look at HP's subplots as a commentary on our world as a whole
it is very effective. There is no resolution in our lives for all of
the problems that arise. Also I see Slytherins, Gryfindors,
Ravenclaws, and Hufflepuffs as being far more complex than the
comments made here. Is Slughorn a bad guy, Phineas Nigellus(who
genuinly cared when Sirius died) what about Narcissa who after
realizing that her son was in danger perpetuated the lie that Harry
was dead. As for Gryffindors being the good guys, I don't see Cormac
McClaggen as being a good guy. He tried to force himself on Hermione
at Slughorn's Christmas party. JKR has repeatedly shown that House
affiliation does not reflect a person's intent or adversion to evil.
Instead of JKR's bad writing I say it is bad analization, and messy
self serving reading.


> Betsy Hp:
> The last straw for me was the scene where Zacharias Smith flees the
> Great Hall just before the final battle, shoving first years out of
> his way.  It was a totally unnecessary mention.  I think it was the
> first time Smith even appeared in DH.  But it's what cemented my
> opinion that JKR was writing for her own personal enjoyment or
> wishfulfillment with a sort of cyncial anger, and not worried about
> story structure or theme.

revaunchanistx:
This more than proves my above point. Zacharias Smith the Hufflepuff
flees and pushes some first years out of the way. It has everything
to do with story structure. Smith is not a Slytherin so the theme
that anyone in any house is subject to cowardice and self serving
attitudes is fullfilled in that action.

Betsy Hp:
(When Lizzyben (I believe?) brought up the
> idea of "revenge" stories, it put a name to what I saw JKR as
having
> finally written.)
>
> [An aside: And of course JKR can write whatever she wants. <bg>
I'm
> just talking about my own personal enjoyment, or lack thereof.]
>

Throughout the HP books various characters from all houses are shown
in less than flattering lights. Dumbledore is shown as a step away
from joining Grindelwald and being worse than Voldemort. Slughorn is
shown as a jolly old guy who likes comfort but is opposed to evil.
Snape is shown as a spy who can work both sides. Nobody is EVIL and
GOOD. Even Voldemort is referred to fondly along with Snape when
Harry refers to the three as the "Abandoned Boys."

Also, I think fair resolution to the idea that Slytherin is bad is
Harry's advice to Albus.

revaunchanistx




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