Slytherin as villains / Ender vs. Harry SPOILERS for Ender's Game
dumbledore11214
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Fri Nov 9 14:27:59 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 178962
> >>Carol:
> <snip>
> If you can present some evidence other than Voldemort's word for
> your view, I'll reconsider mine.
> <snip>
Betsy Hp:
Harry not hearing a lie, and Harry not being shocked at the news.
Seriously, JKR doesn't like Slytherin. They're her bad guy house.
Why are you fighting this? (I'm curious about it actually. Because
it's odd to have people who didn't care much for Slytherin suddenly
(IMO) fighting up stream to show their support for them all of a
sudden.)
<SNIP>
Alla:
Frankly, I do not care whether Voldemort lied or not here. I cannot
EXCLUDE the possibility, but really even if he did not lie, does not
change much for me. I wonder why you are so sure that he did not
lie, but it really does not change much for me.
But I feel compelled to answer this as one of the people who
certainly did not care much about Slytherins and who was feeling
quite pleased with myself after I read DH.
So, how to put it? I do not fight stream to show support for them. I
am pleased that JKR did not make us to see that the House of
pureblooded bigots was suddenly the house full of victims of
prejudice or something. Or did she?
For you the fact that Slytherin house left the battle seems
determinative, right? This is mainly what tells you that they are
baddies and JKR wants us to see them as such.
BUT to me the students that left, many of them as they were were
NEVER characters in the story, sort of. Well except Draco and his
goons, I guess. But you know how I feel about Draco, so I did not
expect him to become fully redeemed.
Right, so just as in my pre DH Slytherins discussions I never fell
for the argument that Slytherins are not bad, because there are
other students that we never met of, besides Draco Malfoy, I cannot
feel that the whole house is bad, because you know, no names, or
names only characters left and join Voldemort ( whether they did or
not, as I said to me it makes no difference if they did).
Oh, to me it is the whole bunch of unnamed Slytherins leaving ( and
there are many underage kids there too, so I think it is not that
bad) - for ANY reason, even if I take the most horrible one - to
join Voldie VERSUS the individual stories of Snape, Slugghorn and
Regulus, which ARE standing out to me so much more than the bunch of
unnamed characters leaving.
I feel that JKR is saying here that Houses are truly not important,
but individuals' behavior is and what those Slytherins show truly
makes up for me for everything.
I do not need to fight any stream to support them, this is what I
see in the text.
JMO,
Alla
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