Slytherin as villains / Ender vs. Harry SPOILERS for Ender's Game

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No: HPFGUIDX 179060

lizzyben:
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It almost seems like people are arguing against the book because
they don't like what it says.
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Alla:

Nope. It is more like I really **see** it in the book. As I mentioned 
before, if I did not see it in the book, I really could care less. I 
am not invested in Slytherins, I have no problem whatsoever with JKR 
writing Voldemort's statement as true. If she chose to write them ALL 
as wrotten through and through, works for me just fine. I do not need 
to see evil redeemed necessarily. I love fairy tales and it would 
work perfectly for me to read it as fairy tale ending, where evil 
gets fully exposed and destroyed. Problem is that is not quite what I 
see **in the book**.

lizzyben:
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 And I'm all for subversive or
contradictory readings, but it is going against author intent IMO.
It's like arguing that Harry decided to free Kreacher after asking
for a sandwich, or Albus Severus will be a good Slytherin, etc.
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Alla:

Or maybe it is like arguing that author really shows us fascist 
ideology in Gryffindors, I think. I happen to think that this is 
really going against author's intent. Does that make your reading 
somehow less valid, because I think that it goes against author's 
intent?


Lizzyben:
Sure, it's *possible*, but it's not in the book. Because JKR didn't
put it there.

Alla:

I see. Crabb not joining Voldemort as possible evidence of him  lying 
is not 
in the book, but Gryffindor kids being trained as heroes somehow 
translating into them growing in fascists as you 
postulated yesterday with multiple not in the book materials is 
actually in the book?


Lizzyben:
 In this case, she chose to include LV saying that all
the evacuated Slytherin students joined his side, and chose not to
reveal that that was a lie. I think she did this to let readers know
that the Slytherin students are just as bad as McGonegal thought
they were, and as a plot point to allow the Malfoys to learn Draco's
actual location.

Alla:

Or maybe she wrote that many Slytherins (of age) had no desire to 
join the battle BUT did not want to join with Voldemort either.

JMO,

Alla