A Dark Glamour - Voldemort's Appeal - DDs Complicity

[Mike]

No: HPFGUIDX 179073

> > Pippin:
> > He thinks his blood status entitles him to the best of 
> > everything (peacocks!), and anyone so presumptuous as to stand 
> > between Lucius and the best of everthing needs to be...removed. 
> > He feels threatened by the growing power of Muggleborns and it 
> > feels good to strike back with a bit of Muggle torture.

Mike:
Really? You think a 15-17 year old Lucius felt threatened by 
Muggleborns? Felt they could keep him from gaining his rightful
place at the head of his family's empire? Can you tell by my 
question marks that I'm not seeing this connection?

 
> > Pippin:
> > He flattered Voldemort's pretensions just as he flattered 
> > Fudge's, for the same reason. He needed them  for the messy job 
> > of removing people who didn't respond to threats and were too 
> > well-protected for poison or curses. 
> 
> a_svirn:
> Yes, but unlike Fudge, Voldemort had very real power, not just 
> pretentious. He was quite simply too dangerous to trifle with.
> More importantly, it was *Lucius's* job, not Voldemort's to weed 
> out the undesirables. I don't see how Lucius could have been 
> delusional enough to believe that Voldemort would do the dirty 
> work for him, when it was exactly the other way round. Lucius 
> doesn't come across as a brilliant mind, but he's not a troll
> either.

Mike:
Pippin, do you see Voldemort being flattered by anyone? The man (if 
it's fair to call him a *man*) has zero regard for his followers. As 
a_svirn said, Lucius is no idiot. So what would be the chance that 
Lucius would attempt the same ploy on Voldemort that he uses with 
Fudge. And a_svirn has another good point about *who* would have been 
expected to do the dirty work.

 

> > Pippin:
> > He doesn't, IMO, have any more interest in the day-to-day tedium
> > of running the wizarding world than Voldemort does. He never
> > wanted to be a Dark Lord himself, he just didn't want those 
> > upstarts at the ministry telling him, Lucius Malfoy, what sort
> > of magic he could or couldn't use. 
> 
> a_svirn:
> But he was ok with having an upstart half-blood as his Master?

Mike:
This is an aside to why he joined in the first place, but where 
would Lucius get the idea that having Voldemort running the British 
WW would somehow relieve him of the day-to-day tedium? Who did he 
think would be doing those jobs?

As to why Lucius joined in the first place, so far, I like 
Potioncat's explanation the best:

In message #179038
Potioncat:
Many wizarding folk thought LV had the right idea. Lucius is a Dark
Wizard, who was attending a school that discouraged the study of dark
magic. LV was this incredibly Dark Wizard, who was well versed in
Dark Magic. Who knows what he promised Lucius, but I'm sure he
offered some prize. Look at HBP. Draco was proud to have been chosen
by LV to carry out a special assignment.

Mike:
So we're back to "dark glamour" again. Maybe it's as simple as that. 
Maybe Lucius comes from one of those old wizarding families that was 
used to using whatever dark magic that they felt like using. So when 
they see their perceived "rights" being taken away, coincident with 
the rise of Muggleborns' authority, the false cause and effect 
analysis gives the Malfoys reason to look elsewhere for recourse. And 
there sits Voldemort, champion of the pure-bloods, decrier of the 
Muggleborn usurpation. Aha, that looks like the way to go.

Maybe it's not as complicated as I thought?!

Mike