[HPforGrownups] JKR, the female and facism (wasRe: WAS Slytherin as villains...

[Katie Spilman]

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            Kemper earlier:
James and Joses are referred to as brothers of Jesus.  Their mother,
Mary, was present with Mary Magdalene.
Most if not all Christians believe that Jesus was an immaculate
conception of a virgin but don't believe that she remained  remained
chaste after bearing Jesus.Katie S. now:You seem to know better than I, I defer to you on this one.

>  Kemper earlier:
>  Draco is different. Draco and martyr are sent out to kill. Draco
>  recognizes his error and wants out. He realizes his mom is right.
>  Narcissa as Mother knows best.

>  Katie S.:At that point in the story, Draco had not realized his error yet.
> Narcissa even laments that he is excited about the assignment, and says of
> course he is, he is a dumb, young kid who has no idea what he has gotten
> himself into.

Kemper now:
He knows his error watching the Muggle Studies hover, moan, plead and die.
He knows his error at the top of the tower.
He probably knows it during his cry sessions with Myrtle.Katie S. now:
But at the time Narcissa is begging for Draco's life and Bella is insisting it would be an honor to die for the Dark Lord, at the beginning of HBP, Draco has not seen his error, that comes at the end of HBP.
>  Kemper earlier:
>  Harry doesn't die /for/ Dumbledore. Harry dies for Hogwarts sans
>  Slytherin <e-er g>

>  Katie S.:I don't think Harry is dying for Hogwarts so much as the people he
> loves: Ginny, Ron, Hermione, the rest of the Weasley clan...

Kemper now:
If that were so, his love sacrifice wouldn't have effected anyone not
Hermione or the W's that Voldemort was throwing spells at.
Katie S. now:Earlier I was implying that DD was sacrificing his son much in the same way God sacrificed his son. However,if Harry had made his sacrifice for Hogwarts the building would not have been able to be damaged.  It could be argued, and I would agree, that he died for everyone in Hogwarts, but I would not say sans Slytherin because when Slughorn is dueling Voldy, no curses hit him.Kemper earlier:
"Kemper, grateful for Katie's responses but imploring her to slash and
snip with glee the replies from me and others as she responds :)"Katie S.  now:

    Katie S., Never sure where to snip and slash at :)
















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