[HPforGrownups] JKR, the female and facism (wasRe: WAS Slytherin as villains...

Janette jnferr at gmail.com
Thu Nov 15 23:30:38 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 179123

>
> Kemper now
> James and Joses are referred to as brothers of Jesus.  Their mother,
> Mary, was present with Mary Magdalene.
> Most if not all Christians believe that Jesus was an immaculate
> conception of a virgin but don't believe that she remained  remained
> chaste after bearing Jesus.
>
montims:
When I lived in Tuscany, all the Italians (Catholics) I spoke to about this
assured me Mary was intact until the day she died - the "brothers" were in
fact cousins, mistranslated in the English.  Otherwise she would not have
been assumed into heaven directly on August 15th (a holiday in Italy).  It
is of no relevance to me, other than that I used to stop Italian children
frequently for saying "Christians do/believe such and such..." when what
they meant was Catholics do/believe that, and it is only fair to reverse the
process...

And looking on wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assumption_of_Mary),
I find:

According to Roman Catholic
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic>doctrine and the
traditions of the Catholic
Church <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Church>, the Blessed
Virgin Mary <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blessed_Virgin_Mary> (Mary, the
mother of Jesus <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary%2C_the_mother_of_Jesus>)
"having completed the course of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul
into heavenly glory."[1]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assumption_of_Mary#_note-0>This
means that Mary was transported into Heaven with her body and soul
united. The feast day <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feast_day> recognizing
Mary's passage into Heaven is celebrated as *The Solemnity of the Assumption
of the Blessed Virgin Mary* by Roman Catholics. This doctrine was dogmatically
and infallibly defined <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogmatic_definition> by
Pope Pius XII <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Pius_XII> on 1
November<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_1>
1950 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950> in his Apostolic
Constitution<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolic_Constitution>
*Munificentissimus Deus<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munificentissimus_Deus>
*. In those denominations that observe it, the Assumption is commonly
celebrated on August 15 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_15>.


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