Some Dumbledore ranting/ some Sirius WAS: Re: Harry as godfather

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Mon Nov 19 21:17:17 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 179204

> Carol responds:
> If appointing Sirius Black as Harry's godfather was the simple 
matter
> that naming Harry as Teddy Lupin's godfather is, with no ceremony 
and
> no certificates involved, I don't see how it could have any legal
> significance at all. As for being named Harry's "guardian," we have
> only one reference to that, from Black himself. It could be a slip 
on
> JKR's part (she's been known to do that).
<SNIP>


Alla:

It could have a legal significance, absolutely, yes. Meaning if the 
RL court of law would have something loosely similar to determine who 
was indeed Harry's guardian IF no writings on the matter would be 
present.

Then if credible witness would have testified that it was child's 
parents wish to have Sirius as guardian, yes, it would have been 
legally significant all right. It would have been nice exception from 
hearsay rules, etc.

And sure, that's your right to believe that it was JKR's slip of 
tongue. Myself I think it was too important for JKR to be a simple 
slip of tongue.

I think it could be fun for example to believe that when Harry tells 
Al that he named after two bravest headmasters of Hogwarts, it was 
JKR's slip of tongue and what Harry really meant was the singular and 
he only meant Dumbledore.

Do I really believe it? Of course not.




 
> Carol:
<SNIP>
I don't see how he
> could possibly have kept Harry safe being on the run himself. His 
big
> disguise would be useless if he were carrying a baby. A Grimlike dog
> carrying a fifteen-month-old toddler in its mouth or on its back 
would
> have been rather conspicuous, as would the flying motorcycle once 
the
> WW was warned about it.

Alla:

I am sure JKR could have find a way if she wanted to write a 
different story. But to be sure when I say to take Harry and leave, I 
did not mean that he should go after Peter with Harry. I meant just 
that - leave.
 
> > Alla:
> > 
> > Except he did not apologise after the fact and did not check his 
> > facts, didn't he? <snip>
>  
> > Where is the part where he figures out what happened? 
> 
> Carol:
> In PoA, offpage, when DD goes to talk to Sirius Black, who is locked
> in Flitwick's office. Soon after that, DD reminds Hermione of the
> time-turner, which they can use to save "more than one innocent 
life":
> that is, Black's and Buckbeak's. He is, at that time, as convinced 
of
> Black's innocence as the children are, and he makes sure that Black 
is
> not turned over to the Dementors.

Alla:

Yeah, well, I know that part. I meant where is him figuring the truth 
earlier than thirteen years after the fact. And all it took for so 
brilliant Dumbledore is one conversation with Sirius, ONE.

 
> Carol:
<BIG SNIP>
> Carol, not at all happy that DD turned out to be such a manipulator
> but believing that he was right to keep Harry away from Black and
> place him with the Dursleys, where he might be unloved but would
> survive to attend Hogwarts


Alla:

Yes, well, as always this is the point of irreconcilable difference 
between our opinions. I think that had Sirius been given a chance to 
raise Harry, he would have turned out pretty all right – and yes, 
single guys do raise kids well often enough. To me the love factor is 
the most important.

JMO,

Alla






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