Gryffindor & Slytherin roles (was Villain!Dumbledore)

[Katie]

No: HPFGUIDX 177712

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "prep0strus" <prep0strus at ...> 
wrote:
>
> 
> > > Lenore:
> > In the Gryffindor perception, they ARE white/good and Slytherin
> > is black/evil.  It is a very simplistic and unreflective 
viewpoint.  It
> > really says less about Slytherin than it does about the Gryffindor
> > attitude, which is more about unexamined assumptions than anything
> > else.
> 
> Prep0strus:
> 
<<<GINORMOUS SNIP>>>

Every time something evil was done, it was done by members of this 
house.
<<<ANOTHER GINORMOUS SNIP>>>
> ~Adam (Prep0strus)

***Katie:

While I agreed with the rest of your post, Adam, I have to disagree 
here. This is the second time I have read this today (I don't know 
who said it the first time), and I have to say...that's wrong! 

What about Wormtail? Wormtail was a Gryffindor! His multiple 
betrayals, and his attempted murder of Sirius, and his murder by 
betrayal of the Potters...he is one of the biggest villians in the 
book and he was NOT a Slytherin. 

Also, if you consider betrayal an act of evil, and I think JKR does, 
Marietta was a Ravenclaw. Marietta betrayed the whole DA to Umbridge 
and she was most definitely a Ravenclaw.

Umbridge - what house was she in? I can't see her as a Slytherin, 
somehow. She's too cutesey. I would guess she might have been in 
Ravenclaw. Of course, that's a guess, but JKR never states that she 
was in Slytherin. And Umbridge...geez...she's worse than Voldy, for 
me! 

And of course, we have a list of good Slytherins...Snape, Sirius, 
Regulus, Slughorn (maybe slimey, but definitely not evil), and I 
would argue that Draco is also not evil. Wimpy and weak, perhaps, but 
NOT evil. 

Sorry, I just had to point that stuff out. I agreed with most of your 
other points, however. : ) Katie