Marietta and her mother WAS : Re: Family and Other Loyalty

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 177815

> Magpie:
> Or Umbridge could have gotten in touch with Marietta's mother. If 
she 
> knows everybody who works at the Ministry who has kids at 
Hogwarts, the 
> word could easily be putting pressure on people there. Marietta's 
> mother could have made that clear to Marietta, making Marietta go 
to 
> Umbridge or whatever.
> 
> Basically, we have no idea what happened, but her mother working 
for 
> the Ministry is the only thing mentioned for a motive for 
Marietta. 
> Making it just an excuse seems to add a level of complication that 
> makes it even less comprehensible. Why would Marietta put herself 
out 
> there at all if she just didn't want to stand up to the Ministry? 

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Alla:

Precisely. We have **no idea** what happened. I do not think 
Marietta's mother had been a lie, but could have been an excuse? I 
think so, yes. Especially since unless I remember it incorrectly 
Marietta does not say a word about her mother when Cho talks about 
her, no?

Doesn't she not confirm what Cho says even with the head's nod?

I can totally see how she could have just mentioned her mother to 
Cho as excuse of not going, but then pushy Choe overpowered her 
regardless and Marietta just did not dare to repeat it with so many 
people here, because somebody's parent may actually work with her 
mother and call Marietta on it.

Speculation? Sure, but no more speculation than the scenario you 
describe IMO.


Magpie:
> The above scenario was the one that I imagined when I read the 
story, 
> that people at the Ministry were leaned on and whichever ones were 
> weaker were going to pressure their kids. Umbridge could also have 
read 
> mail from Marietta, I suppose, and gotten a clue.

Alla:

Oh? Now it is a massive pressure in the Ministry? I mean, not only 
on Marietta's mother? Where is it in OOP? I mean, if we are arguing 
only from what is in the book?


Magpie:
 I just naturally put 
> together the few things I have been told to make it work. In this 
case 
> there doesn't seem to be enough reason to assume that anything's 
been 
> put forward as a lie.



Alla:

You naturally put together a few things to make what work? All that 
pressure on Marietta's mother? Where is it except what Cho said?

Where are all those pressures on ministry employees to support 
Umbridge?